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Re: Royal Tailor Band
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I never considered the sign language performances to be aimed at deaf people to begin with. Sign language is only loosely employed, usually only touching on the main words, and each movement is exaggerated for dramatic effect. It's a dramatic interpretation of a song using sign language; not much more.
Personally, I think the signing performances were pretty cool when they were fresh (as well as the dowel rod things--at least, the few that were done well). I'm kind of tired of it now, though, since everyone is doing it. What I do appreciate is the opportunity for young people to participate in something dramatic and expressive that also has the church's stamp of approval.
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I agree. As Dagwood pointed out, it can be very moving at times, or at least it has been. I think it's a shame that we limit our young people to such narrow confines when it comes to expressing themselves artistically in worship.
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08-31-2011, 03:09 PM
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Re: Royal Taylor Band
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Ummm...my church has a youth stick drama team. I'm the director. We use white gloves, white covered sticks and black lights. We do moves with the sticks but it could hardly be called dancing. We've been doing this for several years. It is kinda out of style now but my pastor likes it and so do my kids so we still do a couple songs per year.
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Yes, that is what I was trying to say, the ones we had in our church was in no way dancing to me. (Except for the ones that got excited in the spirt)
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08-31-2011, 03:20 PM
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Re: Royal Taylor Band
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Tauren Wells, lead singer is married to Lorna Macey (Ron Macey's daughter) of Houston, Texas (Royalwood UPC). Blake Hubbard, their guitarist or bass player (can't remember which) is from Granite City, IL. Not sure where the other band members are from but I am pretty certain that they all met at Indiana Bible College. Talented young people. Wish them well.
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Tauren is originally from Battle Creek, MI and used to attend Mark Hopper's church. Very talented guy.
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08-31-2011, 03:21 PM
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Re: Royal Taylor Band
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I read the article from Ensey's blog. To me, it's as if he did some digging up on the band and came across what he is discouraging. He's painting a picture of weak young people if they decided to take a liking to this band, and that they're going to start wanting to watch MTV. I understand the cautionary tone in his concern but I think it's a little overboard. For me, if it's not played on the Christian radio stations (which I have heard their newest release on the radio here in Dallas, recently, and really like it), I may or may not like it; but it would depend. I'm very strong, not easily swayed by music. So, I think Ensey would be wasting my time if he tried to convince me in person of what he's saying in his blog...
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I've rarely known Ensey to voice an opinion that was NOT overboard when it comes to the Con vs. Lib debate.
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08-31-2011, 05:55 PM
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Re: Royal Tailor Band
I have NOT read this entire thread, but if it has been mentioned before I am sorry, but in case it hasn't then EVERYONE should check out their song "Plastic" it is CLEAR they are not trying to be like the world at all.
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Re: Royal Tailor Band
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I agree. As Dagwood pointed out, it can be very moving at times, or at least it has been. I think it's a shame that we limit our young people to such narrow confines when it comes to expressing themselves artistically in worship.
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At times the "narrow confines" choke the life right out of them...
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08-31-2011, 08:36 PM
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Re: Royal Tailor Band
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When did Tim Rutledge leave the UPC?
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When he decided to start a church in the Nashville area. I think it is called "The Spring" and it meets at The Factory in Franklin, TN. I have a niece whose family attends there. I believe the church is about 15 months old. I have heard reports it is growing at a good clip and has around 80 members now.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
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12-24-2011, 12:45 AM
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Re: Royal Tailor Band
Ok, so I heard Royal Tailor on the WOW 2012 and thought, this band sounds awesome! Bought the cd, read the lyrics, still awesome! Went on YouTube, watched the official music video for Gotta Make A Move. Good/at first! Then the girls came out, why are they "dressed" like they are on MTV!? I use the word "dressed" lightly. We are told in Romans not to do anything that would put a stumbling block in front of our brother. So why are these girls being put on tape under the "Christian" name flaunting what God called to be a secret to them and their husbands? All respectable folks and people with children stay away!
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Re: Royal Tailor Band
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Ok, so I heard Royal Tailor on the WOW 2012 and thought, this band sounds awesome! Bought the cd, read the lyrics, still awesome! Went on YouTube, watched the official music video for Gotta Make A Move. Good/at first! Then the girls came out, why are they "dressed" like they are on MTV!? I use the word "dressed" lightly. We are told in Romans not to do anything that would put a stumbling block in front of our brother. So why are these girls being put on tape under the "Christian" name flaunting what God called to be a secret to them and their husbands? All respectable folks and people with children stay away!
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I can't say what video you've seen but the official 'Make A Move' video is tame by any standards. Girls in pants? Yes... But "flaunting what God called to be a secret to them and their husbands"...um... NO. I did not see a breast or vagina anywhere on the video and even those are not 'secret' parts but over the years will be seen by doctors, nurses, mammography and ultrasound technicians, babies when they are fed. There is noting lewd about that and there was nothing lewd in what these girls were doing. They were simply dancing fully clothed- whether you agree that two legged garments are appropriate for the female gender or not.
If you are worried about children seeing exposed human anatomy please do not ever take them to the mall (a veritable porn show) or to Walmart where they will see life sized underwear models, sexy women showing skin on magazine covers and real live people letting it all hang out... oh and better blindfold them on drives too because I have seen a lot more skin on billboards than 0n this video.
Maybe it would be more reasonable, if your children have an interest in RTB, to watch the video with them and talk about it... For me that would look something like this "I loved the lyrics and the musical style is right up my alley. If I'd had my way the bottom garments on the girls might not have been so conforming and that one girl in the tank could have used a T-shirt with some sleeves, but over all I don't see anything that looks like sin." For you it might be something different but it would still be a learning tool... At least around here we save 'I forbid you to watch that' for things that are sinful... but that is just us!
Also it occurs to me that you are here as a brand new member... First post and all... and you managed to pull up a thread from August to make that comment... Wow you are sure internet message board savvy... I would have never pulled that off... good for you!
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Re: Royal Tailor Band
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I can't say what video you've seen but the official 'Make A Move' video is tame by any standards. Girls in pants? Yes... But "flaunting what God called to be a secret to them and their husbands"...um... NO. I did not see a breast or vagina anywhere on the video and even those are not 'secret' parts but over the years will be seen by doctors, nurses, mammography and ultrasound technicians, babies when they are fed. There is noting lewd about that and there was nothing lewd in what these girls were doing. They were simply dancing fully clothed- whether you agree that two legged garments are appropriate for the female gender or not.
If you are worried about children seeing exposed human anatomy please do not ever take them to the mall (a veritable porn show) or to Walmart where they will see life sized underwear models, sexy women showing skin on magazine covers and real live people letting it all hang out... oh and better blindfold them on drives too because I have seen a lot more skin on billboards than 0n this video.
Maybe it would be more reasonable, if your children have an interest in RTB, to watch the video with them and talk about it... For me that would look something like this "I loved the lyrics and the musical style is right up my alley. If I'd had my way the bottom garments on the girls might not have been so conforming and that one girl in the tank could have used a T-shirt with some sleeves, but over all I don't see anything that looks like sin." For you it might be something different but it would still be a learning tool... At least around here we save 'I forbid you to watch that' for things that are sinful... but that is just us!
Also it occurs to me that you are here as a brand new member... First post and all... and you managed to pull up a thread from August to make that comment... Wow you are sure internet message board savvy... I would have never pulled that off... good for you!
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I agree! and the bolded is how we would handle it as well.
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