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Old 09-13-2008, 11:03 PM
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No, me Jekyll.

I have nothing to get over. Couldn't care less. He's not coming to sing at my church any time this millenium so *shrug*. Someone started a thread, I responded. I still don't care for his music. I'm SURE you don't care for the music I like.

Great. Looks like I have a fan. Don't worry I don't obsess over ignorance so I'll leave you to go on your merry little way.

Until they close the doors on my login, I will choose to respond in any way I feel appropriate on any thread I choose. Same freedom you have.

I do care and I am sorry his soul is on the downward slope...I care for every lost soul and weep in prayer everyday over souls...I really, really do care.
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Old 09-13-2008, 11:05 PM
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I don't want to offend anyone but "Amazing Grace" was penned by an Anglican slave trader OR maybe he was an ex-slaver trader at the time he wrote it. John Newton.
Um ... yeah.

I guarantee that Jekyll's lips have sung the songs of plenty songwriters he thinks are lost ...

and has even felt Holy Ghost singing them ....

His disdain for some in the Body of Christ is apparent.
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Old 09-13-2008, 11:09 PM
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Um ... yeah.

I guarantee that Jekyll's lips have sung the songs of plenty songwriters he thinks are lost ...

and has even felt Holy Ghost singing them ....

His disdain for some in the Body of Christ is apparent.
Scary and sad when people are in positions of leadership to others but don't care.
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I do care and I am sorry his soul is on the downward slope...I care for every lost soul and weep in prayer everyday over souls...I really, really do care.
I'm sure you do. I never said I didn't care for the lost, and I hope your post isn't insinuating that that I don't.

Isn't this the second greatest reason we know anything about Jesus? Ray Boltz's case isn't any better or worse than other "celebrities" who have fallen. Nor is their personal life worth more or less than our neighbors who are on their own path to hell.

Why do I need to care more for Ray Boltz than I do for my neighbors who are in the middle of a divorce? I can't do anything about RB but I can try my best to offer a saviour to my neighbor in need.
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Um ... yeah.

I guarantee that Jekyll's lips have sung the songs of plenty songwriters he thinks are lost ...

and has even felt Holy Ghost singing them ....

His disdain for some in the Body of Christ is apparent.
Oh master of rabbit trails, why oh why is this relevant? And for whom in the Body of Christ do I have disdain?
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Old 09-13-2008, 11:11 PM
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Re: Ray Boltz????

I removed my post because I thought someone might think it was offensive...Anyway, I believe the first 3 verses that we sing are attributed to John Newton (and other verses that he wrote have been omitted) from modern day hymnals...

http://www.anointedlinks.com/amazing_grace.html

The fourth was written in the 1800s maybe...Anyone know??

From wikipedia:

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In her novel Uncle Tom's Cabin, Harriet Beecher Stowe quoted three stanzas as seemingly from one hymn, two of them corrupt versions of Amazing Grace stanzas, and one reading:

When we’ve been there ten thousand years,
Bright shining like the sun,
We've no less days to sing God’s praise
Than when we first begun. [3]

Despite its relatively poor mesh with the rest of the hymn (the change from "I" to "we," change of subject, no reference for "there"), a form of this stanza became common as part of Amazing Grace in hymnals in the early twentieth century, due in large part to the influential hymnodist and publisher Edwin Othello Excell. While the stanza is often credited to John P. Rees (1828-1900),[4] it antedates his birth. It was in print by 1790, added to an old and widely-varied hymn most usually beginning "Jerusalem, my happy home" [5], and was still appearing as part of this hymn in books published around the time of Stowe's book,[6].
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Old 09-13-2008, 11:13 PM
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Scary and sad when people are in positions of leadership to others but don't care.
lol

ooops, I mean, sssshiiiivvvverrrr
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How funny everyone is embracing a story of work that is from a false premise. Eulogizing a lie.

Sad? Yeah. Earth shattering? Nah. Heart breaking? Yeah, if he doesn't turn from this sin and obey the plan of salvation.
Keep your head in the game, Jek ... and your eye on the ball.
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Old 09-13-2008, 11:17 PM
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Re: Ray Boltz????

I am sorry for his choice but I love the words to many of the songs he sings. Jekyll, Everyone is important to God ...red and yellow, black and white...we are all precious in His sight.
Yes, your neighbor is just as important as RB...we don´t know your neighbor and many of us enjoy RB´s songs. However you don´t enjoy them and that is your business...my church kids sang songs tonight that I detested but they will never find that out...just glad they sang...
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I translated one of his songs just the other day for one of our groups to sing.
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