*BREAKING*Tulsa gathering beginning to unravel!

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

I want to know what AFF will be up in arms over on Feb 2nd-

After Tulsa is nothing like it was presented....

[Kansas Preacher]

Originally Posted by embonpoint

Pardon me but I am fairly new here. Could you direct me to the threads and thousands of post referencing the motives of those who voted for Res 4. I would be particularly interested in those by KP.

I think they will be hard pressed to find such posts with my name attached. I have been vehement in my disagreement with the resolution, but I do not think anyone will successfully find a post where I have impugned the motives of the men behind the resolution.

If I had, however, does that excuse the impugning of motives that has been widespread on the threads throughout this forum? I think not.

Brothers and sisters, NEITHER SIDE should be guilty of what has gone on here. It is NOT just a problem with the "ultra-cons." There are those on this forum that obviously have some very strong feelings against those men, and have impugned them on every turn. Yet they feel justified in doing so. I say that it is not right, regardless of which "side" of the fence you are on.

[embonpoint]

Originally Posted by Kansas Preacher

I think they will be hard pressed to find such posts with my name attached. I have been vehement in my disagreement with the resolution, but I do not think anyone will successfully find a post where I have impugned the motives of the men behind the resolution.

If I had, however, does that excuse the impugning of motives that has been widespread on the threads throughout this forum? I think not.

Brothers and sisters, NEITHER SIDE should be guilty of what has gone on here. It is NOT just a problem with the "ultra-cons." There are those on this forum that obviously have some very strong feelings against those men, and have impugned them on every turn. Yet they feel justified in doing so. I say that it is not right, regardless of which "side" of the fence you are on.

That has been my impression of your posts. As to the rest of your post here I can only offer a hearty, Amen!

[Felicity]

I just wish this would all go away and that there would be peace and harmony and good will.

Peace on earth -- good will to all men! Isn't that what the angels sang?



God bless you all!

[embonpoint]

Originally Posted by Felicity

I just wish this would all go away and that there would be peace and harmony and good will.

Peace on earth -- good will to all men! Isn't that what the angels sang?



God bless you all!

"Where there is no talebearer the strife ceaseth."

But as long as there are men and egos and well.....

Amen to your sentiments anyway.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by Felicity

I just wish this would all go away and that there would be peace and harmony and good will.

Peace on earth -- good will to all men! Isn't that what the angels sang?



God bless you all!

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Kansas Preacher

For that, I have no answer. Understand, I am certainly not their "public defender." I have no plans to join. I just don't find the "ulterior motives" that many are attaching to these men. I know a number of the Executive Council members personally, and trust their motives completely.

I am very surprised to hear that you have no plans to join. I would think you are exatly the demographic this new org. is designed for.

What is your reason for not joining like minded brethern in this new org.? I know that you have said you either already have or are leaving the UPC and this new org. has the cream of the crop of UPC cons and ultra cons heading it up. Many of them I am sure are men you hold in high esteem.

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by embonpoint

"Where there is no talebearer the strife ceaseth."

But as long as there are men and egos and well.....

Amen to your sentiments anyway.

It's needful to take a deep breath of fresh air from time to time and keep your wits about you. To clear the head occasionally and keep a proper perspective is really really crucial.

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind

Arrrgghhhh!

[Thad]

Originally Posted by CC1

I am very surprised to hear that you have no plans to join. I would think you are exatly the demographic this new org. is designed for.

What is your reason for not joining like minded brethern in this new org.? I know that you have said you either already have or are leaving the UPC and this new org. has the cream of the crop of UPC cons and ultra cons heading it up. Many of them I am sure are men you hold in high esteem.

CC, KP is even stricter than most of the ones heading up This New group.
there are several Ultra cons out here that will attend some of their fellowships but wont join. I think that some of them fear that this group will eventually get too worldly too just like the UPC