BRO HAYMON!!! Colorado Security Guard' Connection/Apostolic Background!!!

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by staysharp

Again, an assumption. Did he tell you he wrote it? There are plenty of people who take care of websites. Why don't you call and ask him if he wrote it and let everybody know.

I have no doubt he wrote it, and it really doesn't matter because I am sure any "press releases" need to go out with his approval because HIS name is on the sign.

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Pragmatist

Arrogant was the impression I got from visiting the church.

Disclaimer: I visited once and it was more than 6 years ago.

It is a much different church and environment now that Junior Haymon took over. I would agree with you when the elder was pastor.

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Pragmatist

I don't know their history, but if they ever were UPC, it was a long time ago.

Carp??

They have never been UPC, although their relationship with the UPC has softened just a bit with the advent of Junior taking the pastorate.

While he is still conservative, he is not of the ilk to call the whole of the UPC a bunch of liberal compromisers.

[SoCaliUPC]

Originally Posted by Carpenter

Thad, I apologize, I re-read your post and it was not you with your hands dirty, it was the response from others I disagreed with.

I think the statements should have been vetted first before people just started to hammer.

If you read this statement and Gordon Poe's name was attached to it, would it still be a statement you would back up?

It is not the author that is neing criticied it is the content.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by SoCaliUPC

Thad...do you really think this? Seriously?

I don't buy it. This was a chance for them to say....HEY DENVER...Guess what...that lady who is being called a hero was once a member of our church. Thank God we were able to witness to her.

And not even one mention of the condolences to the families.

I think it is self-serving and in bad taste. There IS a way to have posted this "article" better that would have left a better taste in people's opinions. The whole tone is self-serving and capitalizing on a bad situation.

I have'nt read this whole thread, but, could you state your concern, who you are and some possible changes in an e-mail to them? they may just be open to rewording the notice...

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

That too ...

In all this the revelation of the name is tantamout, obviously.

Many OP want to appear mainstream w/o "compromising".

I hope that the UPCI has this guy pull his statement ... like they censored that guy who had the anti-semitic sign during the showing of the Passion.

Dan,

He is NOT UPCI.

Originally Posted by SoCaliUPC

The Haymon's are UPC. The Gordon's (at least at the time of the Passion incident) are UPC.

No, the Haymons are not UPC

[RevBuddy]

And the elder Haymon is not know for his careful, indepth contemplation before acting...they should have taken a deep breath before they published this silly assessment of the tragic events in their area...

[delta soundman]

Originally Posted by Carpenter

It is a much different church and environment now that Junior Haymon took over. I would agree with you when the elder was pastor.

Look, I've been good over the past few weeks so I'm not going to sling any mud but, GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!! The latter is just as arrogant as the former. I know these people well. This very forum has come under his attack because of the truth that was being spread here. I'm sure he appreciates your loyalty but I don't trust the man and I will leave it at that.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Pragmatist

I don't know their history, but if they ever were UPC, it was a long time ago.

Carp??

They got out in 1968 Elder Haymon was one of the original members of the AMF he was the missionary director for several years however he has been independent since sometime in the 80's. Carp thank you for your rational reponse to this foollishness.