Anger + Sadness = RAGE

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by acerrak

noe you didnt look it up the assault had to do with undercover cops. that was physically beating his friend. he jumped in to help his friend. had the cops revealed who they where there would have been no issue, but they didnt. all he saw was 2 guys beating up his buddy and he came to his aid....

he was charged with assaulting the cops, it was dropped because the cops failed to show identificaton. Had they shown it there would have been no confrontation.

This was not a response to what you are talking about-- I am talking about the Martin case and you are talking zim's police record. zim also had a domestic violence report filed against him, but it was dropped too.

I don't think zim looked at Martin and had the intent to kill, but it is a strong possibility that it was his prejudice that started the confrontation.

Also, zim didn't live in the neighborhood where he killed Martin, making his death all the more non-sensical.

At the end of the day, I am glad it's looking like it is going to trial.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by acerrak

actually it doesnt. if you seen the lay out of the town homes in the area, as one commentator stated trayvon ran away. zimmerman lost him. He sais trayvon had enough time to go in his dads girl friends house, use the bathroom and come back out before zimmerman completed the 911 call to police. That is just how close He was.

Look you find a way to proove zimmerman had intent to kill the kid, (which i dont see none) and proove that he had the gun out before the confrentation accord(which will be hard to proove) i will swap to the side of the kid.

However what i see. is a man trying to protect his neighborhood that has been broken into 9 times over the last year.

Its a tragic loss of life. I at this point dont see how zimmerman had pre-meditated this before hand. Him calling 911 was proof of that and the 911 call of him screaming again shows me that he was infact defending himself,


Just because a boy is 17 doesnt make them innocent. sorry.

I am not saying any of what you are saying, but WHY would you not give the kid the benefit of the doubt? He is the victim, the boy who died getting his brother a pack of candy from the store?


This is akin to heaing about a rape and saying, well the girl probably deserved it.


As far as distances, remember-- Martin didn't live in Sanford. He is from Miami and he was up here visiting his father.

[scotty]

This is not good conversation for you Jermyn. Been reading all of this from the beginning, and while you have arguable points, your emotional bias is really starting to bleed through.

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

I don't think zim looked at Martin and had the intent to kill, but it is a strong possibility that it was his prejudice that started the confrontation.

no intent to kill no second degree murder..... just saying.

prejudice in what way? did he show any ratial based when confronting this man?

I am not saying any of what you are saying, but WHY would you not give the kid the benefit of the doubt? He is the victim, the boy who died getting his brother a pack of candy from the store?

who said the boy is the victim? I have down loaded the 911 mp3 where zimmerman is screaming for help. You can hear it through the walls of the people making the 911 call.

what i see is zimmerman approached the kid on the grounds of what are you doing here. according to his girl friend zimmerman asked that question twice to trayvon.
then the next thing we hear is zimmerman's scream on a audio

Then we have 2 witness's and we have the doctors report.

In our court system a man is innocent till proven guilty. Im not gonna give the boy the benifit of the doubt, cause of the wounds on mr zimmerman. If there was no wounds on zimmerman then i definatly would give martin benifit. But when the man has been verified by doctors to have a cuts on his head and a broken nose.

I mean what more do you want to call it?

We had a hoodie awarness day close to where i live over this. and thats great. people in hoodies isnt thugs. However this boy in my personal view attacked the man when confronted. Zimmerman yelled for help 1 minute later the boy was dead.

the only thing the prosecution can do to persuade my mind in this case is trying to proove that zimmerman had his gun out waving it in martins face. other than that the fact of buying ice tea and skittles has little effect to the case.

Also, zim didn't live in the neighborhood where he killed Martin, making his death all the more non-sensical.

yes He does, his house or town home what ever you want to call it is in that gated community. where do you get your info?

[deacon blues]

http://wreg.com/2012/03/31/family-ho...l-for-justice/


http://crayfisher.wordpress.com/2012...-hispanic-man/

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Aren't you glad that this case LOOKS LIKE it will at least go to trial?

Not particularly. I would have been fine if the police investigation would have concluded self defense. I am not an Al Sharpton groupie nor live with a victim mentality so I don't automatically think every time a non black man kills a black man that it is a racial hate crime.

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

http://wreg.com/2012/03/31/family-ho...l-for-justice/


http://crayfisher.wordpress.com/2012...-hispanic-man/

you also dont hear about the 2 black men that killed the white guy with a hammer about 6 miles from where trayvon was shot. Didnt even rob the guy they just killed him. (there not even going to charge them with a hate crime.)

but yes one man pointed out the fact that in the month of march when trayvon was shot there was 43 fatalities in chicago that was black on black, one was a 6 year old kid caught up in a shooting, yet there is no out-rage over this..

This is because it wasnt promoted by the racial leaders of jesse jackson and al sharpe. But it does go to show you how much the media is biased. Look at Nbc.

they even messed up the 911 audio tapes to make zimmerman sound racist. n the end the media doesnt care about lives it cares about ratings.

[canam]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Does anyone know what the name of Jessica Simpson's baby is?

vavavoom after her mom !

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by scotty

This is not good conversation for you Jermyn. Been reading all of this from the beginning, and while you have arguable points, your emotional bias is really starting to bleed through.

Well I have several hoodies and live about 30 minutes from where he was killed.

I think I am doing a good job in not being over the top, with anything I've typed.

I am sure you have read that I have admitted my personal bias, due to the nature and location of this tragedy.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by CC1

Not particularly. I would have been fine if the police investigation would have concluded self defense. I am not an Al Sharpton groupie nor live with a victim mentality so I don't automatically think every time a non black man kills a black man that it is a racial hate crime.

Neither do I.

So you are telling me now that even with all of the questions surrounding exactly what happened that night, you would be completely fine without there even being an investigation to begin with?