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Old 06-04-2012, 10:07 PM
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exactly which is why he dead ,zim personal safety was threatned ! case closed !
But we have at least one witness whose testimony shows that MARTIN was the one who felt threatened first-- and even tried to get out of harm's way.

When his human "fight or flight" reaction kicked in, his first response was NOT to fight, but to get away.

His behavior was mistaken for guilt and he was killed-- with a bag of Skittles in his pocket.

This is why I've always maintained that there is a distinct difference between racism and prejudice. zim isn't a racist in my book, but it was his prejudice that ultimately led to the unnecessary death of Martin, a 17 year old who went to the store to get his little brother a pack of candy.

There is NO WAY that this case should not have been further investigated from the begininng-- which is why there was outrage ALL OVER THE NATION, an outrage not started or manipulated by Sharpton or Jackson, but an outrage based on the collective gut feeling of thousands of Americans that justice was not served in the Sanford Police's initial decision to not detain zim and investigate this murder.
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Old 06-04-2012, 10:25 PM
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But we have at least one witness whose testimony shows that MARTIN was the one who felt threatened first-- and even tried to get out of harm's way.

When his human "fight or flight" reaction kicked in, his first response was NOT to fight, but to get away.

His behavior was mistaken for guilt and he was killed-- with a bag of Skittles in his pocket.

This is why I've always maintained that there is a distinct difference between racism and prejudice. zim isn't a racist in my book, but it was his prejudice that ultimately led to the unnecessary death of Martin, a 17 year old who went to the store to get his little brother a pack of candy.

There is NO WAY that this case should not have been further investigated from the begininng-- which is why there was outrage ALL OVER THE NATION, an outrage not started or manipulated by Sharpton or Jackson, but an outrage based on the collective gut feeling of thousands of Americans that justice was not served in the Sanford Police's initial decision to not detain zim and investigate this murder.
German,

None of us know what actually happened. We are going to have to wait for the trial and hear the witnesses both testify and be cross examined.
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But we have at least one witness whose testimony shows that MARTIN was the one who felt threatened first-- and even tried to get out of harm's way.

When his human "fight or flight" reaction kicked in, his first response was NOT to fight, but to get away.

His behavior was mistaken for guilt and he was killed-- with a bag of Skittles in his pocket.

This is why I've always maintained that there is a distinct difference between racism and prejudice. zim isn't a racist in my book, but it was his prejudice that ultimately led to the unnecessary death of Martin, a 17 year old who went to the store to get his little brother a pack of candy.

There is NO WAY that this case should not have been further investigated from the begininng-- which is why there was outrage ALL OVER THE NATION, an outrage not started or manipulated by Sharpton or Jackson, but an outrage based on the collective gut feeling of thousands of Americans that justice was not served in the Sanford Police's initial decision to not detain zim and investigate this murder.
JD - can you give me a link to the witness.
And by the way, you know that zim's great-grandfather was black.
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:03 AM
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JD - can you give me a link to the witness.
And by the way, you know that zim's great-grandfather was black.
Martin's girlfriend and their telephone call-- confirmed by cell towers and the fact that he was trying to get out of the area BEFORE he met zim.


I didn't know that about his Great Grandfather, but it doesn't mean that he's not prejudiced.

He looked at Martin and thought the worst-- which ultimately cost Martin his life.


Listen, I am prejudiced. You are prejudiced. It is human nature to be prejudiced. Racial, weight, hair color, car style, food items, church name-- prejudice doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing. Prejudice is one of the survival mechanisms of intelligent beings.

It's a rare occurrence, however, when our prejudice puts us in a situation where ultimately someone dies because of our prejudice. Whether it turns out zim is deemed justified in a court of law or not, Trayvon Martin died because zim looked at him and thought the worst.
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:08 AM
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German,

None of us know what actually happened. We are going to have to wait for the trial and hear the witnesses both testify and be cross examined.
Aren't you glad that this case LOOKS LIKE it will at least go to trial?

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Old 06-05-2012, 05:23 AM
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Aren't you glad that this case LOOKS LIKE it will at least go to trial?

No JD, nothing to see here ,move along ,your nothing more than Jesse and Al lite
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Old 06-05-2012, 06:12 AM
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That's just it-- before the State stepped in, there weren't any charges!
noe you didnt look it up the assault had to do with undercover cops. that was physically beating his friend. he jumped in to help his friend. had the cops revealed who they where there would have been no issue, but they didnt. all he saw was 2 guys beating up his buddy and he came to his aid....

he was charged with assaulting the cops, it was dropped because the cops failed to show identificaton. Had they shown it there would have been no confrontation.
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Old 06-05-2012, 06:24 AM
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Martin's girlfriend and their telephone call-- confirmed by cell towers and the fact that he was trying to get out of the area BEFORE he met zim.


I didn't know that about his Great Grandfather, but it doesn't mean that he's not prejudiced.

He looked at Martin and thought the worst-- which ultimately cost Martin his life.


Listen, I am prejudiced. You are prejudiced. It is human nature to be prejudiced. Racial, weight, hair color, car style, food items, church name-- prejudice doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing. Prejudice is one of the survival mechanisms of intelligent beings.

It's a rare occurrence, however, when our prejudice puts us in a situation where ultimately someone dies because of our prejudice. Whether it turns out zim is deemed justified in a court of law or not, Trayvon Martin died because zim looked at him and thought the worst.

actually it doesnt. if you seen the lay out of the town homes in the area, as one commentator stated trayvon ran away. zimmerman lost him. He sais trayvon had enough time to go in his dads girl friends house, use the bathroom and come back out before zimmerman completed the 911 call to police. That is just how close He was.

Look you find a way to proove zimmerman had intent to kill the kid, (which i dont see none) and proove that he had the gun out before the confrentation accord(which will be hard to proove) i will swap to the side of the kid.

However what i see. is a man trying to protect his neighborhood that has been broken into 9 times over the last year.

Its a tragic loss of life. I at this point dont see how zimmerman had pre-meditated this before hand. Him calling 911 was proof of that and the 911 call of him screaming again shows me that he was infact defending himself,


Just because a boy is 17 doesnt make them innocent. sorry.
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Does anyone know what the name of Jessica Simpson's baby is?
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Does anyone know what the name of Jessica Simpson's baby is?
she had a girl and they named her Maxwell Johnson......
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