*** Newsflash: D Bernard Speaks Out on TV Debate and Upcoming GC***

[H2H]

Originally Posted by CC1

Most likely all of the little old gullible ladies on Social Security retirement who gave millions to Robert Tilton, Jim Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart are dead now and a whole new generation awaits to be gently seperated from their meager income.

I know SM works at that on telethons from time to time but I am betting there is always room for some charismatic personality to rake in the dough.

All you have to do is promise people physical blessings and prosperity if they give to your ministry. This slot machine gospel seems to go over very well even though it is perversion of the true Gospel.

However in the case of Robert (Box) Tilton he was so over the top that I don't feel sorry for anybody stupid enough to send him money. LOL!!

This is the way it is with most false ways - they are detroyed buy the lies they believe.

[chosenbyone]

Originally Posted by H2H

This is the way it is with most false ways - they are detroyed buy the lies they believe.

True. But let's not forget that the spirit that promoted those false ways are still on this earth today. Even someone like Tilton who has totally made a mockery of God has come back on the scene in the last few years. He could be seen in many markets on BET late at night and the report I read was he was raking in millions of dollars from those so desperate that they would give money to a charlatan just to have hope. CC1 was correct when he wrote that the majority of those that give to such ministries were the ones that were elderly and on fixed incomes. Very, very sad...

[Brett Prince]

Interestingly enough, a charismatic church in Forth Worth that runs 10,000 refuses to do tv. It is not from a moral/holiness issue, but a ministry philosophy. They decided to take the money they would use for tv and invest in more full-time staff pastors. I understand they have 74. They are growing by leaps and bounds and have not been around long.

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by Brett Prince

Interestingly enough, a charismatic church in Forth Worth that runs 10,000 refuses to do tv. It is not from a moral/holiness issue, but a ministry philosophy. They decided to take the money they would use for tv and invest in more full-time staff pastors. I understand they have 74. They are growing by leaps and bounds and have not been around long.

Brett,

I don't think that TV or TV advertising will solve all of the UPCI outreach growth issues, nothing beats connecting to a live person and developing authentic relationships that lead to discipleship and Koneia, but for pete's sake at least give people the luxury and freedom to choose the option.

After studying and teaching this last week on Romans 14 I come away with a new understanding and appreciation for handling disputable matters.

Those who want liberty stop despising the weaker brethren who live by more rules and regulations, and those who are have lesser liberties and are offended easily, stop judging those that have more liberty.

Originally Posted by Brett Prince

Interestingly enough, a charismatic church in Forth Worth that runs 10,000 refuses to do tv. It is not from a moral/holiness issue, but a ministry philosophy. They decided to take the money they would use for tv and invest in more full-time staff pastors. I understand they have 74. They are growing by leaps and bounds and have not been around long.

74 full-time staff pastors??

I have to say props to whoever the head pastor of that church is for being willing to share his pulpit with 73 other men...

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by Brett Prince

Interestingly enough, a charismatic church in Forth Worth that runs 10,000 refuses to do tv. It is not from a moral/holiness issue, but a ministry philosophy. They decided to take the money they would use for tv and invest in more full-time staff pastors. I understand they have 74. They are growing by leaps and bounds and have not been around long.

I think this is great! Really!

Just remember that this decision was a local assembly CHOICE, and was not forced on them by a controlling organization!

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Brett Prince

Interestingly enough, a charismatic church in Forth Worth that runs 10,000 refuses to do tv. It is not from a moral/holiness issue, but a ministry philosophy. They decided to take the money they would use for tv and invest in more full-time staff pastors. I understand they have 74. They are growing by leaps and bounds and have not been around long.

I don't know anybody who thinks TV advertising or programs are THE answer. It is just a very important tool in the arsenal of reaching people for Christ.

[Raven]

Originally Posted by keith4him

Brett,

I don't think that TV or TV advertising will solve all of the UPCI outreach growth issues, nothing beats connecting to a live person and developing authentic relationships that lead to discipleship and Koneia, but for pete's sake at least give people the luxury and freedom to choose the option.

After studying and teaching this last week on Romans 14 I come away with a new understanding and appreciation for handling disputable matters.

Those who want liberty stop despising the weaker brethren who live by more rules and regulations, and those who are have lesser liberties and are offended easily, stop judging those that have more liberty.

Good words Keith!
Raven

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

I think this is great! Really!

Just remember that this decision was a local assembly CHOICE, and was not forced on them by a controlling organization!

remember they joined this controlling organization with those rules.

Originally Posted by hometown guy

nope guess not i didnt have to go to anything i didnt click on.

And you dont have to go to a channel you dont turn to.