What kind of benefits does she receive from this job?
Unsure. Although, Kim was hired as a deputy clerk by her mother, before she retired. Kim has since hired her son as a deputy clerk. I read somewhere that a complaint was filed with the KY Atty Gen office because KY law forbids nepotism.
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In her area, are there any jobs better, and pay better than her county job?
Unsure. Although, Kim was hired as a deputy clerk by her mother, before she retired. Kim has since hired her son as a deputy clerk. I read somewhere that a complaint was filed with the KY Atty Gen office because KY law forbids nepotism.
Unsure, but I doubt it.
I thought so, so she is keeping her conviction while also trying to keep her job. If she was working at a 7 Eleven she would of walked already. Yet, since her job is a county job, one that makes good money (probably has good benefits) she just can't walk away. The whole thing concerning nepotism laws will be a little hard to pursue even at the extent of attention this case is receiving. Other than that, she has a case.
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I thought so, so she is keeping her conviction while also trying to keep her job. If she was working at a 7 Eleven she would of walked already. Yet, since her job is a county job, one that makes good money (probably has good benefits) she just can't walk away. The whole thing concerning nepotism laws will be a little hard to pursue even at the extent of attention this case is receiving. Other than that, she has a case.
Being elected/hired to do a job, then job description changing in the middle of the job to something that is totally against one's convictions. I would hope so.
Here is an example of the oath of County Clerk here in our state.
Before me, (insert name of Clerk), Clerk of the County Commission of the County and state aforesaid, personally appeared (insert name of newly elected official), who has been duly elected to the office of the County Clerk of (insert county) County, (insert state) and took and subscribed the following.
I, (newly elected official), do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of (insert state), and that will faithfully discharge the duties of the Office of County Clerk of (insert County and state) to the best of my skill and judgment. So help me God.
Assuming that Kim Davis at least affirmed something of this nature, it must be noted that her main responsibility is to support the Constitution of the US and her state in the discharge of her duties. If her state constitution has not been amended, and the US Constitution has not been amended, perhaps she could stand on the argument that she is continuing to uphold the same constitution that she originally affirmed or took an oath to support?
im sticking by my comments related to religious conviction that forces people to beg government for the chance to enter into a covenant relationship with God.... not sure how we got there...
but Now im giggling.
So to remove her, she would need to be impeached or recalled... so what happens if...
The state refuses to impeach, and there is no recall desire?
people speak... While I fear this becomes case law for Public Accommodation that will lead to Christians being forced to make cakes for gay weddings etc.; I do have a major love for people who stick there thumb in the eyeballs of the Prog-Agressives.
That could be really fun. So Don't agree that there is an actual "God principle" here... I am pretty pleased Mrs. Davis is doing this. I just hope that KY as a state and the people of her county have the guts to stand with her.
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Kim Davis was just arrested by order of the Federal Judge and placed in custody of US Marshals. She will be jailed until she agrees to comply with the Judge's order to issue gay marriage licenses.
Ironically, the pro-SSM lobby is not very happy with this. They were hoping for the Judge to simply fine her, because they didn't want the images of a Christian put in jail for her beliefs.
Of course, they don't have much to worry about. Christians are a lazy lot and, unlike the militant left, it's unlikely there will be much, if any, protests against this. I wish that wasn't the case. I wish the millions of Christians in the US would walk out of work, school, homes right now and march to their State Capitals to protest this blatant violation of our First Amendment freedoms.
Kim Davis was just arrested by order of the Federal Judge and placed in custody of US Marshals. She will be jailed until she agrees to comply with the Judge's order to issue gay marriage licenses.
Ironically, the pro-SSM lobby is not very happy with this. They were hoping for the Judge to simply fine her, because they didn't want the images of a Christian put in jail for her beliefs.
Of course, they don't have much to worry about. Christians are a lazy lot and, unlike the militant left, it's unlikely there will be much, if any, protests against this. I wish that wasn't the case. I wish the millions of Christians in the US would walk out of work, school, homes right now and march to their State Capitals to protest this blatant violation of our First Amendment freedoms.
What will you be doing in solidarity?
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I think religious individuals need to count the cost when considering employment or a career. If for some reason it begins to violate their conscience, they do well to resign peacefully and take their stand in that manner.
Certainly, a Muslim shouldn't apply for a job like working in a deli at Kroger's where they will be cutting, serving, and providing pork products. It is simply the cost of their faith. A Christian might not want to maintain or apply for a job in a casino. What about Christians who work for convenience stores that also sell alcohol, cigarettes, Playboy, and perhaps even more hardcore adult entertainment? If these things violate their conscience, should they not perhaps seek employment elsewhere?
Essentially a Christian's loyalty to their faith has a cost. They can either take a stand pay that cost afterwards (as with Kim Davis)... or they can count that cost up front and perhaps save themselves a significant amount of emotional (and perhaps even financial) anguish.
Being a Christian means that some jobs or career fields might simply be below your moral threshold. If your church teaches against violence, perhaps serving in law enforcement or the military isn't for you. If your church teaches that homosexuality is a moral sin, perhaps being a county clerk that issues marriage licenses isn't for you. If your faith has strict sexual ethics, perhaps working in an establishment that provides adult materials isn't for you. If your church teaches against drinking and/or smoking, perhaps working in a place that provides those products isn't for you.
If you are a devout Christian and you currently serve in an occupation that includes, or provides, any of the listed services or products above... you should either find a way to reconcile it with your conscience or resign peacefully. You still make your statement. Either way, you have to take control and do what is best for you and your religous faith.
Count the cost.
What is a greater witness? Living peaceably and counting the cost up front... or taking a divisive and/or insubordinate stand and counting that cost after the fact?
Either way, you'll pay the cost.
She is going to pay the cost for her civil disobedience. Often loyalty to Christ has a cost, and we embrace that. I think this will highlight the issue of religious conscience in society. I can only hope that churches will lay down the line and explain that some jobs are simply not for the Christian.
Matthew 10:16 (ESV)
“Behold, I am sending you out as sheep in the midst of wolves, so be wise as serpents and innocent as doves."
Romans 12:18 (ESV)
If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all.
I think religious individuals need to count the cost when considering employment or a career. If for some reason it begins to violate their conscience, they do well to resign peacefully and take their stand in that manner.
Certainly, a Muslim shouldn't apply for a job like working in a deli at Kroger's where they will be cutting, serving, and providing pork products. It is simply the cost of their faith. A Christian might not want to maintain or apply for a job in a casino. What about Christians who work for convenience stores that also sell alcohol, cigarettes, Playboy, and perhaps even more hardcore adult entertainment? If these things violate their conscience, should they not perhaps seek employment elsewhere?
Essentially a Christian's loyalty to their faith has a cost. They can either take a stand pay that cost afterwards (as with Kim Davis)... or they can count that cost up front and perhaps save themselves a significant amount of emotional (and perhaps even financial) anguish.
Being a Christian means that some jobs or career fields might simply be below your moral threshold. If your church teaches against violence, perhaps serving in law enforcement or the military isn't for you. If your church teaches that homosexuality is a moral sin, perhaps being a county clerk that issues marriage licenses isn't for you. If your faith has strict sexual ethics, perhaps working in an establishment that provides adult materials isn't for you. If your church teaches against drinking and/or smoking, perhaps working in a place that provides those products isn't for you.
If you are a devout Christian and you currently serve in an occupation that includes, or provides, one of the listed services or products above... you should either find a way to reconcile it with your conscience or resign peacefully. You still make your statement. Either way, you have to take control and do what is best for you and your religous faith.
Count the cost.
What is a greater witness? Living peaceably and counting the cost up front... or taking a divisive stand and counting that cost after the fact?
Either way, you'll pay the cost.
As I said, she is going to pay the cost for her civil disobedience. I think this will highlight the issue of religious conscience in society. I can only hope that churches will lay down the line and explain that some jobs are simply not for the Christian.
Matthew 10:16 (ESV)
“Behold, I am sending you out as sheep in the midst of wolves, so be wise as serpents and innocent as doves."
Romans 12:18 (ESV)
If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all.
Aquila, she had the job before supreme court decision.
Arresting her made her a martyr for the cause.
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