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05-22-2010, 07:44 PM
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Re: Let's talk about Baptism.
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I preach baptism in Jesus' name and propose it is part of salvation. I believe it is what Romans 6 was speaking about.
But no one in the bible ever associated HELL with or without it, whether or not it saves from hell. I like how Priscilla and Aquila handled it. |
mfblume ,
You are the first person I have ever handed out the Liberal, Charismatic ,certificate to you deserve it.
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05-22-2010, 08:38 PM
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Re: Let's talk about Baptism.
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Both of you gentlemen make the same mistake in language here. Instead of using the proper contraction " you're " you have mistakenly used the possessive pronoun " your ."
In the world of fast and sloppy posting this is hardly a matter for correction or complaint. We all just hammer out something on the keyboard and trust that our Internet friends will read past the minor grammatical and spelling errors. It's no big deal.
But I see your argument concerning just how and when "the name of the Lord" is pronounced or used in a baptismal ceremony to be akin to my pointing out your grammar problems.
I have asked many denominational pastors, Bible college instructions, theology professors and others about this issue over the years. I have yet to meet any Christian teacher or leader who ever suggested that baptism NOT be done "in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ."
There are many different rites associated with baptism in many churches. Some of them involve such a long invocation that the officiant must read it out of a book. I have yet to ever see anyone who performed a baptism or who trained clergy to perform baptisms who ever omitted the name of Jesus Christ from the prayers, statements, liturgy, homilies or even their ad hoc extemporaneous exclamations.
Your complaint here appears to be as silly and pedantic as my pointing out your bad grammar.
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Very good points!
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05-22-2010, 11:16 PM
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Re: Let's talk about Baptism.
Today I'm going to be Baptized in Jesus name! very excited! Praise His name! 
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05-22-2010, 11:33 PM
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Re: Let's talk about Baptism.
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Today I'm going to be Baptized in Jesus name! very excited! Praise His name! |
great news!!
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05-22-2010, 11:41 PM
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Re: Let's talk about Baptism.
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Today I'm going to be Baptized in Jesus name! very excited! Praise His name! |
I'm curious to hear your testimony regarding this. You appear to have been around folks who baptize "in Jesus' name" for a while. What happened to cause you to schedule a baptism for today?
And by the way, welcome to the family. 
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05-23-2010, 01:37 PM
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Re: Let's talk about Baptism.
And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him. Colossians 3:17
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05-23-2010, 06:21 PM
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Re: Let's talk about Baptism.
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And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him. Colossians 3:17 |
You forgot to end your post in Jesus name. 
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05-23-2010, 08:34 PM
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Re: Let's talk about Baptism.
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Originally Posted by pelathais
I'm curious to hear your testimony regarding this. You appear to have been around folks who baptize "in Jesus' name" for a while. What happened to cause you to schedule a baptism for today?
And by the way, welcome to the family. |
Hello and God bless,
today is my birthday, what better way to start off a new beginning! I have been with this Church for just over a year, I left my former Church because I felt like I wasn't getting all I could in my relationship with God, I'm not quite sure if I'm explaining this well, anyway I was searching and I visited 7 different Churches, while I had yet to visit Church # 7 I was in the grocery store and an elderly man by the name of Chester Williams struck up a conversation with me about Church and Jesus and invited me to his Church, gave me directions and I gave him my ph #. The next Sunday I went to the Church and all I can say is that I just knew I found a home! I looked for Chester and asked the Pastor ( who is a 15th Cousin of mine, another story) if he knew of any member by that name, nope, so here I am just over a year later at the Church I feel God led me to, Praise be His Name! Thank you for the welcome, I love this place.
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05-23-2010, 11:29 PM
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Re: Let's talk about Baptism.
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Originally Posted by UltraCon
Are people going to hell if they do not get baptized in the Name of Jesus?
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I assume you're asking if someone doesn't have another man perform the baptismal ritual properly (whatever proper means) on behalf of the baptizee would they go to hell.
The answer is of course not.
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Does it matter how your baptized?
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I again assume that you're asking if redemption by the blood of Jesus Christ unto an individual hinges on the performance of the preacher during baptism, the answer is no. Redemption doesn't come through the sinner's confession + another man's performance during baptism + Jesus Christ's finished work on behalf of that individual. That's placing another man's 'righteous' work between the individual and God instead of accepting that there is only one who is the mediator between God and man, Jesus Christ.
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Is baptism essential to salvation?
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Yes. But baptism isn't essential to redemption. There is a difference between redemption, reconciliation and salvation. In other words, a person does not have to be baptized to go to heaven but must be baptized to enter into a covenantial relationship with God through identification with Jesus Christ which is a part of salvation.
We are redeemed by the blood of the Lamb....has nothing to do with baptism.
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05-24-2010, 12:15 AM
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Re: Let's talk about Baptism.
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Originally Posted by Anthony
Hello and God bless,
today is my birthday, what better way to start off a new beginning! I have been with this Church for just over a year, I left my former Church because I felt like I wasn't getting all I could in my relationship with God, I'm not quite sure if I'm explaining this well, anyway I was searching and I visited 7 different Churches, while I had yet to visit Church # 7 I was in the grocery store and an elderly man by the name of Chester Williams struck up a conversation with me about Church and Jesus and invited me to his Church, gave me directions and I gave him my ph #. The next Sunday I went to the Church and all I can say is that I just knew I found a home! I looked for Chester and asked the Pastor ( who is a 15th Cousin of mine, another story) if he knew of any member by that name, nope, so here I am just over a year later at the Church I feel God led me to, Praise be His Name! Thank you for the welcome, I love this place. |
Congrads on becoming baptized 
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