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11-20-2007, 04:38 PM
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'Splain, please?
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I agree with ya MP. It is a wonderful church. However, it agree's with everything those leaving are complaining about, so why would they want them to go to?
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Sure, Ricky Ricardo...PastorD thinks it's a wonderful church, but...in his opinion, it stands for things the brethren leaving the UPCI are complaining about, so why would the brethren want our MI brethren in the new org?!
At least that's what I think he's asking...
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11-20-2007, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Barb
Sure, Ricky Ricardo...PastorD thinks it's a wonderful church, but...in his opinion, it stands for things the brethren leaving the UPCI are complaining about, so why would the brethren want our MI brethren in the new org?!
At least that's what I think he's asking...
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Oh, ok, thanks, Lucy!
Now I get it..........yes, that's correct, the church has never preached against television, and you raise an excellent point, Pastor D........not sure why the new group would want that church, other than for the prestige and financial support?
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11-20-2007, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by dizzyde
If that is the case, it might be a good thing, however, are these men really looking for outside reinforcement?
If they wanted checks and balances, well they are leaving a whole organization of people with differing viewpoints. That is one of the great things about being part of a large organization, you have all sides of the issues represented, it is how you balance each other.
I thought that the reason that these men were leaving was that they couldn't "compromise" their beliefs. Why would they be looking for balance at this point?
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I didn't mean "checks and balances" in regards to the new org.'s firmly held beliefs. I meant someone outside their group to monitor that they handle things ethicaly, correctly, and in a right spirit. Someone who could speak up and say when they felt a wrong spirit was manifesting itself in any decision making. Someone to help insure rancor was kept out. I have no idea if this is the case. I was just trying to figure out some rationale for ultra cons to have a lib at their meeting!
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11-20-2007, 04:47 PM
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I didn't mean "checks and balances" in regards to the new org.'s firmly held beliefs. I meant someone outside their group to monitor that they handle things ethicaly, correctly, and in a right spirit. Someone who could speak up and say when they felt a wrong spirit was manifesting itself in any decision making. Someone to help insure rancor was kept out. I have no idea if this is the case. I was just trying to figure out some rationale for ultra cons to have a lib at their meeting!
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I know, I was being the DA (not DAN) but if were under the scenario that you are setting up, it would be a wise move.
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11-20-2007, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by CC1
I didn't mean "checks and balances" in regards to the new org.'s firmly held beliefs. I meant someone outside their group to monitor that they handle things ethicaly, correctly, and in a right spirit. Someone who could speak up and say when they felt a wrong spirit was manifesting itself in any decision making. Someone to help insure rancor was kept out. I have no idea if this is the case. I was just trying to figure out some rationale for ultra cons to have a lib at their meeting!
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If we are speaking of the same person, he is far from a lib, CC...I love him to death, but Thaddy thinks everyone not like him is a lib. 
This elder I am referring to may not preach against tv, but that does not a liberal make, IMO...
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11-20-2007, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
Not sure I understand the question........
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It just makes no sense to me that those who are against TV and creating a meeting, movement, alliance, org based on their disagreement with TV would invite and actively pursue a church that advertises on TV and has a church full of TV's.
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11-20-2007, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Barb
Sure, Ricky Ricardo...PastorD thinks it's a wonderful church, but...in his opinion, it stands for things the brethren leaving the UPCI are complaining about, so why would the brethren want our MI brethren in the new org?!
At least that's what I think he's asking...
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Thanks Barb....
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11-20-2007, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by PastorD
It just makes no sense to me that those who are against TV and creating a meeting, movement, alliance, org based on their disagreement with TV would invite and actively pursue a church that advertises on TV and has a church full of TV's.
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Yeah, I caught it the second time around........I'm a bit slow, but Barb enlightened me.
And, I wouldn't say the church is FULL of TV's.........there's still enough room for a small pulpit, and few folding chairs! 
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11-20-2007, 05:04 PM
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What is interesting to me is that the invited has been advertising their church on TV for several years. Could it be the "issue" is not the "issue" and the real "issue" is POWER in Tulsa.
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Bump to MP.
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11-20-2007, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
Yeah, I caught it the second time around........I'm a bit slow, but Barb enlightened me.
And, I wouldn't say the church is FULL of TV's.........there's still enough room for a small pulpit, and few folding chairs! |
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