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07-05-2007, 05:30 PM
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We have a couple that haven't always been faithful. They pretty much church hop and always have.
Last night our pastor prayed for them and showed them some things that God was going to do with their lives. How He was going to bless them and use them to bless others.
The thought came to me, "Lord, heal them in their pain." I was a little astonished that the thought came to me so strong.
My husband was talking about it today and said, "That is exactly how God would have dealt with those people."
So, this may be off topic, but sometimes people look like they are doing the wrong things and not measuring up when all they needed was spiritual healing.
Cornering them and pointing fingers with accusation doesn't normally bring any healing.
I've made mistakes in my life and God has never - not one time - talked to me ugly in prayer - not once.
We need to be more sensitive to the Spirit and voice of God, IMHO.
Just had that on my mind, sorry. lol
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07-05-2007, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
We have a couple that haven't always been faithful. They pretty much church hop and always have.
Last night our pastor prayed for them and showed them some things that God was going to do with their lives. How He was going to bless them and use them to bless others.
The thought came to me, "Lord, heal them in their pain." I was a little astonished that the thought came to me so strong.
My husband was talking about it today and said, "That is exactly how God would have dealt with those people."
So, this may be off topic, but sometimes people look like they are doing the wrong things and not measuring up when all they needed was spiritual healing.
Cornering them and pointing fingers with accusation doesn't normally bring any healing.
I've made mistakes in my life and God has never - not one time - talked to me ugly in prayer - not once.
We need to be more sensitive to the Spirit and voice of God, IMHO.
Just had that on my mind, sorry. lol
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This is a good post.
We must be careful how we handle people ,I agree.
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07-05-2007, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
This is a good post.
We must be careful how we handle people ,I agree.
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Thank you Brother Scott. I have seen some people that seemed to almost be worthless, so to speak, but when they were given direction - they grabbed onto purpose.
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07-05-2007, 05:50 PM
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I don't pastor currently but I ever Pastor I want to be compassionate towards folks.
I would want to be known as a sheperd and not a butcher.
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
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07-05-2007, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
This is a good post.
We must be careful how we handle people ,I agree.
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We must handle them just as carefully, if not moreso, than we handle the snakes.
If not, we'll become known as one of those 'people-handling' churches! :yikes
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07-05-2007, 08:24 PM
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Yes and sometimes people will bite you and bite you worse than snakes.
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
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07-05-2007, 08:56 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Originally Posted by warrior
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I was talking to a gentleman on yesterday whom I believes love God with all his heart. He told me that he was apart of a board at his church that calls disobedient members to come to a meeting with them to state their intentions toward the church if they are not paying tithes, not in regular attendance to bible study and other church functions. To me, I think this is wrong, but he seems to be in agreement with this practice and feels that it is okay to put people in front of a panel of five people to discuss why they are not doing certain things. He claims sons and daughters are obedient. They even find scripture that calls you a bastard if you don't receive this correction from them.
How do you all feel about this?
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Not biblical. This is why a lot of people don't want to tithe to begin with...it gives some power to a pastor/board they should not have or exercise wrongly...to know when you tithe and how much and then use it as some sort of weapong. Calling people before a board just makes their perceptions more acute imo
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07-05-2007, 10:35 PM
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"It's Never Too Late"
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Originally Posted by warrior
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I was talking to a gentleman on yesterday whom I believes love God with all his heart. He told me that he was apart of a board at his church that calls disobedient members to come to a meeting with them to state their intentions toward the church if they are not paying tithes, not in regular attendance to bible study and other church functions. To me, I think this is wrong, but he seems to be in agreement with this practice and feels that it is okay to put people in front of a panel of five people to discuss why they are not doing certain things. He claims sons and daughters are obedient. They even find scripture that calls you a bastard if you don't receive this correction from them.
How do you all feel about this?
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To me I do not care if you are Tounge talking, One God, Holy Ghost, Heaven Bound believer in the liberated power of Jesus Name.
When you start demanding these kind of encounters with folks.
You are a cult and have cultish ways....
I do not care how anyone else see's it.
These encounters are used to beat folks down and keep them down.
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07-05-2007, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Neckstadt
To me I do not care if you are Tounge talking, One God, Holy Ghost, Heaven Bound believer in the liberated power of Jesus Name.
When you start demanding these kind of encounters with folks.
You are a cult and have cultish ways....
I do not care how anyone else see's it.
These encounters are used to beat folks down and keep them down.
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There are many "Unofficial Panels/Boards" that judge others - I guess in this case it is just formalized. There used to be an unofficial lady who inspected to see if anyone was showing "elbows"...We used to call her and her family the "Elbow Police"....I AM NOT MAKING THIS UP!... 
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07-06-2007, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
Notice I did not say a group of elders could do what this thread advocates ,but if a group of ministers are working as a plurality of Elders in a church why couldn't they in love sit down and reason with church members that might have gotten off track in their spiritual condition ?
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Because there is no biblical basis for it.
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