Drone Attacks on Americans

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Ferd

Thank you! I do try.

You know Bammer may not be able to ride a bike like a man, toss a baseball or hold a shotgun but he sure knows how to kill a terrorist.

True that! lol

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by n david

The problem I have is one person, the President, is calling all the shots of who is considered a threat to be killed and who isn't. THAT is extremely disconcerting.

How soon until the NRA is labeled a terrorist organization? Don't laugh. Charles Schumer and other senators are already laying the groundwork, calling the NRA an "extreme fringe group."

And sure, Anwar al-Awlaki was likely a terrorist and committing treason, but his 16-year old son Abdulrahman wasn't. Neither were the friends he was hanging out with when the US drone blew them to bits.

Even if al-Awlaki was a terrorist and committed treason -- the constitution still afford him due process as a citizen. Pardon the french, it absolutely sucks for me to want to protect his due process rights as a citizen. But then again, I also would protect the free speech rights of Westboro Baptist Church, as bad and evil as they are.

The folks here saying it should be ok to blow citizens away without any due process or proof of treason, thus abolishing the 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th Amendments, should be a bit more concerned that one person, the President, has destroyed 4 amendments and is flirting with the 1st, 2nd and 4th (though the 4th has been destroyed with warrantless wiretaps and electronic monitoring). The reason I mention flirting with the 1st is hate/bullying legislation will soon make it a crime to tweet, post a status/article, deliver a speech/sermon or otherwise speak out against a certain lifestyle. It will happen. And the reason the Bill of Rights will be completely destroyed, will be because we were willing to allow the 5th-8th to be bypassed in the name of national security and the war on terror.

I don't think Obama is calling all the shots. I worry and wonder who is actually driving the power behind him.

And you are right about the Alinsky style tactics they are taking toward the NRA.

I was actually shocked to see Chris Wallace take their side. It was totally - I can't find the word - evil - when Chris drilled down on LaPierre, saying, "You really think that the President's children are the same kind of target as every school child in America? That's ridiculous and you know it, sir,"

LaPierre makes the point, "Tell that to Newton" He goes on to say, '"I think there are parents all over the country and they think their children are entitled to the same amount of protection when they go to school and they want their kids to be safe,"

Totally logical argument, but Chris Wallace takes the side of the insane liberals. Disgusting.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I don't think Obama is calling all the shots. I worry and wonder who is actually driving the power behind him.

And you are right about the Alinsky style tactics they are taking toward the NRA.

I was actually shocked to see Chris Wallace take their side. It was totally - I can't find the word - evil - when Chris drilled down on LaPierre, saying, "You really think that the President's children are the same kind of target as every school child in America? That's ridiculous and you know it, sir,"

LaPierre makes the point, "Tell that to Newton" He goes on to say, '"I think there are parents all over the country and they think their children are entitled to the same amount of protection when they go to school and they want their kids to be safe,"

Totally logical argument, but Chris Wallace takes the side of the insane liberals. Disgusting.

But isn't he an insane liberal?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Esther

But isn't he an insane liberal?

Well, he didn't used to be, but yes, he has moved that way, along with Faux News for a while now. The lines between the Republican and Democratic Party are clearly merging and fast.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by n david

The problem I have is one person, the President, is calling all the shots of who is considered a threat to be killed and who isn't. THAT is extremely disconcerting.

How soon until the NRA is labeled a terrorist organization? Don't laugh. Charles Schumer and other senators are already laying the groundwork, calling the NRA an "extreme fringe group."

And sure, Anwar al-Awlaki was likely a terrorist and committing treason, but his 16-year old son Abdulrahman wasn't. Neither were the friends he was hanging out with when the US drone blew them to bits.

Even if al-Awlaki was a terrorist and committed treason -- the constitution still afford him due process as a citizen. Pardon the french, it absolutely sucks for me to want to protect his due process rights as a citizen. But then again, I also would protect the free speech rights of Westboro Baptist Church, as bad and evil as they are.

The folks here saying it should be ok to blow citizens away without any due process or proof of treason, thus abolishing the 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th Amendments, should be a bit more concerned that one person, the President, has destroyed 4 amendments and is flirting with the 1st, 2nd and 4th (though the 4th has been destroyed with warrantless wiretaps and electronic monitoring). The reason I mention flirting with the 1st is hate/bullying legislation will soon make it a crime to tweet, post a status/article, deliver a speech/sermon or otherwise speak out against a certain lifestyle. It will happen. And the reason the Bill of Rights will be completely destroyed, will be because we were willing to allow the 5th-8th to be bypassed in the name of national security and the war on terror.

Agree with you.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Well, he didn't used to be, but yes, he has moved that way, along with Faux News for a while now. The lines between the Republican and Democratic Party are clearly merging and fast.

That in my opinion is because whoever is running country runs both sides.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Esther

That in my opinion is because whoever is running country runs both sides.

I totally agree, Esther. I see the Federal Reserve was hacked. That is the only way we will probably find out what is going on, like the global warming lie.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Esther

That in my opinion is because whoever is running country runs both sides.

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I totally agree, Esther. I see the Federal Reserve was hacked. That is the only way we will probably find out what is going on, like the global warming lie.

Thou art not farther from the truth!
The New World Order runs things & I have met someone who used to be a part of it & he says (and has proof) that it has tentacles everywhere & is kind of like Alice in Wonderland & the Rabbit hole--no one can really be sure how deep it goes.
They play it like a shell game, remember the old carny huckster magician & his three cups & one ball?
While they are redirecting attention over here, they are actually over here.
Fact: There was a conspiracy to Kill Kennedy.
Fact: To find out who, what, when, where, why? We can play a parlour game until Jesus came and never figure it fully out.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by n david

The problem I have is one person, the President, is calling all the shots of who is considered a threat to be killed and who isn't. THAT is extremely disconcerting.

How soon until the NRA is labeled a terrorist organization? Don't laugh. Charles Schumer and other senators are already laying the groundwork, calling the NRA an "extreme fringe group."

And sure, Anwar al-Awlaki was likely a terrorist and committing treason, but his 16-year old son Abdulrahman wasn't. Neither were the friends he was hanging out with when the US drone blew them to bits.

Even if al-Awlaki was a terrorist and committed treason -- the constitution still afford him due process as a citizen. Pardon the french, it absolutely sucks for me to want to protect his due process rights as a citizen. But then again, I also would protect the free speech rights of Westboro Baptist Church, as bad and evil as they are.

The folks here saying it should be ok to blow citizens away without any due process or proof of treason, thus abolishing the 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th Amendments, should be a bit more concerned that one person, the President, has destroyed 4 amendments and is flirting with the 1st, 2nd and 4th (though the 4th has been destroyed with warrantless wiretaps and electronic monitoring). The reason I mention flirting with the 1st is hate/bullying legislation will soon make it a crime to tweet, post a status/article, deliver a speech/sermon or otherwise speak out against a certain lifestyle. It will happen. And the reason the Bill of Rights will be completely destroyed, will be because we were willing to allow the 5th-8th to be bypassed in the name of national security and the war on terror.

[Aquila]

How many remember this...???

"I, _____, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;"

We have passed the "half-way" point of becoming a high tech police state. We have to make a difference. Voting Republican or Democrat has failed. They are both only interested in who gets to control this police state. We need to vote for Liberty. It's time for the rise of a third party... a party focused on liberty... a Libertarian Revolution.