I do not understand why any church would encourage the singing of this type song by anyone, much less children. It doesn't edify or uplift anyone.
However, I refuse to jump on the bandwagon and demonize this church for teaching these kids that sin is sin. My son is 6. He already knows that wrong is wrong. When he startes hearing in public school that homsexuality is ok, he will hear very clearly from home that it is no ok. It is an abomination and will land a soul in hell.
I'm tired of practitioners of perversion getting to trumpet their sickening lifestyle all over, but the inute any Christians stands up to them they get deomonized, sadly by others who are supposedly Christian as well.
__________________
There is a conspiracy of silence in the land.
If you don't know the answers to my statements your not worth discussing this with.
Good day.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge
lol
You have all the answers.
Not one true homosexual has ever been converted. Kind of like a Christian being able to literally walk on water.. Just doesn't happen. I pray/wish it did, but it hasn't and wont. Maybe you have more faith than I do.
Who said I was being tough? I'm just responding. You and I have never met in person, so you can't accurately state whether I'm being tough.
I also never claimed I have the answers to your statements. I asked questions after you made the statements. Your so-called witness isn't worth neither is it near the truth whatever you want to describe it as. So, no, there is nothing further to discuss with you as well -- I don't have all the answers, you don't have all the answers since you make an assumption after assumption.
Try getting your knowledge a little more sharpened. Try meeting a few more people outside your circle. Try getting outside the church doors for once. You'll see how off you are in your thinking and supposed convictions.
I've got enough faith to look beyond appearance or mannerisms of many people, unlike yourself.
At the end of the day, blessings to you and yours...
Who said I was being tough? I'm just responding. You and I have never met in person, so you can't accurately state whether I'm being tough.
I also never claimed I have the answers to your statements. I asked questions after you made the statements. Your so-called witness isn't worth neither is it near the truth whatever you want to describe it as. So, no, there is nothing further to discuss with you as well -- I don't have all the answers, you don't have all the answers since you make an assumption after assumption.
Try getting your knowledge a little more sharpened. Try meeting a few more people outside your circle. Try getting outside the church doors for once. You'll see how off you are in your thinking and supposed convictions.
I've got enough faith to look beyond appearance or mannerisms of many people, unlike yourself.
At the end of the day, blessings to you and yours...
No hard feelings here. You assume to know my circles and church attending habits.
I may have become defensive and untrusting on this particular forum. Honestly I should stay off this forum.. I've made less than 1000 posts in 4 years.
I don't get much out of it and 95% probably don't get much out of what I have to say. I only wish/pray good for people and my convictions or my way of conveying them back fires.
__________________
There is a conspiracy of silence in the land.
Not one true homosexual has ever been converted. Kind of like a Christian being able to literally walk on water.. Just doesn't happen. I pray/wish it did, but it hasn't and wont. Maybe you have more faith than I do.
__________________
Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
__________________
If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
I wonder how much Bible Tim Rutledge knows if he says a true homosexual can't be converted. Paul mentioned there were a few former homosexuals the Corinthian church. The only unpardonable sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
__________________
A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
I wonder how much Bible Tim Rutledge knows if he says a true homosexual can't be converted. Paul mentioned there were a few former homosexuals the Corinthian church. The only unpardonable sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
What would you expect if one is told, generation after generation or person after person, the same thing over and over again. One starts to mold a truth out of it and pulls in certain scriptures (those they've been told to use) to build it up, buff it up, and make it look so beautiful to believe.
Some just don't/can't/won't see the forest for the trees. But, God sees their side, He sees others' side. However, He holds the Truth and knows what it will take to change someone's heart to follow Him and His ways. Perhaps He'll get a hold of someone flirting with or stuck in homosexuality. Perhaps, too, He'll get a hold of the little boy in this video, at some point, to help him see the bigger picture -- a picture painting deliverance, forgiveness, and redemption.
What would you expect if one is told, generation after generation or person after person, the same thing over and over again. One starts to mold a truth out of it and pulls in certain scriptures (those they've been told to use) to build it up, buff it up, and make it look so beautiful to believe.
Some just don't/can't/won't see the forest for the trees. But, God sees their side, He sees others' side. However, He holds the Truth and knows what it will take to change someone's heart to follow Him and His ways. Perhaps He'll get a hold of someone flirting with or stuck in homosexuality. Perhaps, too, He'll get a hold of the little boy in this video, at some point, to help him see the bigger picture -- a picture painting deliverance, forgiveness, and redemption.
He never said one couldnt be forgiven he said he knows of not one ever has changed ,neither have i(even though we have had several in our church) and im a lot older than he is.