Exactly my first thoughts when I hear how people are "offended" by Prolife statements/actions.
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Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW
I think there are right ways to protest and wrong ways.
Wrong: ie hollering obscenities, screaming "murderer" at a young woman entering a clinic, or "you deserve to die"
(among other things, such as the death threats and shooting of abortion doctors)
This is reminicent of a certain crowd with stones in their hands and a woman at Jesus feet.
Right: holding your sign, speaking calmly, writing letters to government, preaching against it with love and compassion and opening places for woman to go when they become unexpectedly pregnant.
(among other things I'm sure)
Because of the many 'Wrong' ways abortion has been addressed and approached, there are woman who, like this lady before coming to God, would spit at people protesting.
If we protest things, we better do it in the most Christ-like manor or we're probably going to be in trouble with Him.
Thank you, Mrs. LPW! This is so true. And just because someone protests the protesters, it doesn't mean they are on the side of justifying the wrong of it.
Can we imagine the turmoil in that girl's heart as she makes her way to end a life so that she can continue to care for herself because she doesn't think she can do both? Is she wrong? Certainly she is, but she doesn't know any other answer and she can't find a way out.
So, she looks across the street and sees people holding a sign that says, "Jesus Saves". How does that help her?
It certainly didn't help my friend. What helped her? A pentecostal girl happened to get hired at her place of business. She befriended her and brought her to church. She has a beautiful family now. She has her Masters in Education and three beautiful children. God is good!
I think I've 'known' Stephen long enough to know he wouldn't advocate the crazies who protest out there...
It is hard sometimes though, for Christians to look past the sin to the sinner... because some sins seem more heinous... like the killing of innocent babies.
At the same time, as hard as it is sometimes, we're still given the ministry of reconciliation.
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Thank you, Mrs. LPW! This is so true. And just because someone protests the protesters, it doesn't mean they are on the side of justifying the wrong of it.
Can we imagine the turmoil in that girl's heart as she makes her way to end a life so that she can continue to care for herself because she doesn't think she can do both? Is she wrong? Certainly she is, but she doesn't know any other answer and she can't find a way out.
So, she looks across the street and sees people holding a sign that says, "Jesus Saves". How does that help her?
It certainly didn't help my friend. What helped her? A pentecostal girl happened to get hired at her place of business. She befriended her and brought her to church. She has a beautiful family now. She has her Masters in Education and three beautiful children. God is good!
To get back on topic...lol
Exactly. It's a huge problem, but protesting doesn't do anything to fix it. I'm glad your friend did find help.
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Ladies, of course I do not advocate cruelty or hate speech as a way of reaching people for Christ. And yes many attitudes can repel rather than appeal.
I am looking at it from a broader perspective I guess... Like how would or should the US react if the French were allowed to dismember their toddlers at will - and in fact did so to the tune of over a million a year?? Would we understand people getting mean or violent?
It is the same thing. I am not sure that being nice is always the best thing... ... but I speak as a struggling pacifist.
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Ladies, of course I do not advocate cruelty or hate speech as a way of reaching people for Christ. And yes many attitudes can repel rather than appeal.
I am looking at it from a broader perspective I guess... Like how would or should the US react if the French were allowed to dismember their toddlers at will - and in fact did so to the tune of over a million a year. Would we understand people getting mean or violent?
It is the same thing. I am not sure that being nice is always the best thing... ... but I speak as a struggling pacifist.
I understand your dilemma completely. Dilemma probably isn't the right word, confliction maybe? I understand it. Allowing child molesters to walk free is something I feel extreme anger over at times..
Crimes committed against the innocent... children, babies.. they are much harder to stomach... and even more so when they are legalized.
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Psalm 19:14
Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.
First of all, there is nothing in you or me (BC) that is worth anything. He doesn't have any 'need' for us. His chief end is to glorify Himself and we're to do the same. Before we come to Him we hate Him and want nothing to do with Him. We are debased in the worst way and we have nothing to give Him. The ONLY goodness we have is His reflection in us as He transforms us to His likeness.
To suggest that God 'longs' for something denotes His 'lack' which is not what I'm sure you mean.
You have an incorrect view of God, my friend. I'm sorry to say that.
The Hebrew word for Love is ahav. According to Gesenius, the father of modern Lexicography - the one Brown Driver Briggs based their feeble attempt at a lexicon on, the word ahav means to breathe after. To long for. To desire. It's passionate. It's fiery. Pardon the bluntness... It's "I gotta have her"...
God said it was not good for man to be alone, because it was not good for GOD to be alone. He created us to love us... and to receive love from us. He wanted a Bride. He desired a Bride. He longed for a Bride.
We aren't some educational science experiment or some way to show the devil something... we're here because He wants us. He wants us intimately. He wants us completely.
You have an incorrect view of God, my friend. I'm sorry to say that.
The Hebrew word for Love is ahav. According to Gesenius, the father of modern Lexicography - the one Brown Driver Briggs based their feeble attempt at a lexicon on, the word ahav means to breathe after. To long for. To desire. It's passionate. It's fiery. Pardon the bluntness... It's "I gotta have her"...
God said it was not good for man to be alone, because it was not good for GOD to be alone. He created us to love us... and to receive love from us. He wanted a Bride. He desired a Bride. He longed for a Bride.
We aren't some educational science experiment or some way to show the devil something... we're here because He wants us. He wants us intimately. He wants us completely.
I've never said that God doesn't love us. His sacrifice of His Son was the supreme act of love. What I am saying is that God doesn't NEED us. If He needed anything He would not be perfect and complete. Besides, show me Scripture that states that He has a need for humans.
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