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01-09-2008, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
All in favor say "I" . Opposed the same.
Disclaimer: "Doubting Steve" should not be confused with "Stephen the faithful one Hoover".
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It's all in the fine print Steve. I like that one. 
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01-11-2008, 06:44 PM
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It's all in the fine print Steve. I like that one. |
From my lofty perch things are always crystal clear.
this post should not be understood as a confirmation nor denial of the veracity or importance of said fine print
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01-11-2008, 07:18 PM
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So, you're telling me, they would give through WPF, then WPF would give to UPC, then UPC would take the admin fee, then the remaining funds would go to the missionary?????!!!????
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01-11-2008, 07:25 PM
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Smiles everyone...Smiles!!
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Originally Posted by RevBuddy
So, you're telling me, they would give through WPF, then WPF would give to UPC, then UPC would take the admin fee, then the remaining funds would go to the missionary?????!!!????
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I believe that they will be sending to their own missionaries, and not those that are not with their group. So UPC licensed missionaries will not be supported by the WPF.
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01-11-2008, 07:29 PM
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Smiles everyone...Smiles!!
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Originally Posted by stmatthew
I believe that they will be sending to their own missionaries, and not those that are not with their group. So UPC licensed missionaries will not be supported by the WPF.
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oops! I am wrong. I guess they will send to any missionary that you designate the funds to go to. I wonder if I can send to Billy Graham through them?? 
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01-11-2008, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by seguidordejesus
To avoid the administration fee (10-15%?) that the UPC takes out.
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If they ever actually grow large enough (which I doubt) they will find that there are administrative costs associated with these types of things. However, with dues at $60/month, which is almost double upci, maybe that is how they are offsetting some of these things.
I always get amazed at the gripes for admin fees, usually its someone with no idea of what it takes to manage these large amounts of funds and people.
Anyway, I hope they succeed. The UPCI is better off now!
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01-12-2008, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Discerner
If they ever actually grow large enough (which I doubt) they will find that there are administrative costs associated with these types of things. However, with dues at $60/month, which is almost double upci, maybe that is how they are offsetting some of these things.
I always get amazed at the gripes for admin fees, usually its someone with no idea of what it takes to manage these large amounts of funds and people.
Anyway, I hope they succeed. The UPCI is better off now!
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I have to disagree, the UPCI is not better off now , they have lost very precious men and those who brethren hold close to their heart. Reaching out to men is the answer and don't believe there are many out there that feel the same way as the above statement.
What will we do when we all get to heaven - say, I wished you hadn't made it- don't think so.
They are precious people just like the UPCI
I have no axe to grind with UPCI or the new organization/association as all I can say we are brethren, let's reach out , love each other and win the lost
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01-12-2008, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Broken
I have to disagree, the UPCI is not better off now , they have lost very precious men and those who brethren hold close to their heart. Reaching out to men is the answer and don't believe there are many out there that feel the same way as the above statement.
What will we do when we all get to heaven - say, I wished you hadn't made it- don't think so.
They are precious people just like the UPCI
I have no axe to grind with UPCI or the new organization/association as all I can say we are brethren, let's reach out , love each other and win the lost
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I understand what you're saying, but it's easier said than done.
Imagine 8-10 families leaving your church to start a new Apostolic church in the same town without your blessing. These families left because they disagreed with a few of your rules. Would your initial response be to reach out, love them, and bid those precious people God's speed?
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01-12-2008, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Pianoman
I understand what you're saying, but it's easier said than done.
Imagine 8-10 families leaving your church to start a new Apostolic church in the same town without your blessing. These families left because they disagreed with a few of your rules. Would your initial response be to reach out, love them, and bid those precious people God's speed?
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That is how my dad handled it and how he taught me it should be handled. He even helped dig the foundation for the new pastor's church and provided any assistance he could. His view... simple... if God is in it I don't want to fight it and if God is not in it it won't prosper. It didn't prosper and the folks were welcomed home with open arms by a man how never offended them by his ignorance.
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01-12-2008, 09:00 AM
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just a question?
Will the WPF order literature from the UPC or do they already have their own publishing in place also?
If they do order from PPH will this be considering supporting the UPC and in essence TV advertising?
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