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Old 11-19-2007, 09:28 AM
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I have never seen a program or commercial, where a church or pastor identified what organization they were affiliated with...
this is true, the name of the church may have united pentecostal in it.
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Old 11-19-2007, 09:28 AM
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Old 11-19-2007, 09:30 AM
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this is true, the name of the church may have united pentecostal in it.
Thinking of who may go on, I doubt there are too many that have that in their church name... Even still most if not all at this point will only be in their immediate area, not national.... In my area the commercial area is broken up into about 10 districts...
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Old 11-19-2007, 09:32 AM
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Did you Hear about Larry Booker's Latest controversial message???????

here are bits and pieces (quotes) taken from it.


give your opinion, good or bad so that we can discuss it.



Booker told his church this past sunday night about how the tv vote went - said the organization took a turn towards destruction. He also said he was suprised at how many ministers nationwide are not happy.


Booker went on to say that the day of the vote was such an emotional day of sadness just like when JFK was shot and when the towers were hit on 9/11. He got the same feeling when the vote passed as on 9/11.


It is interesting to note that the original vote against tv took place in Tulsa in 1955 - maybe that's why they picked Tulsa as the place to form the new organization - to make a statement?


Also, Tommy Craft went to see Ken Phillips before the vote and apparently Wanda Phillips pleaded with Tommy Craft saying "don't let the movement (upc) go the way we did in regards to television. TV will steal everything from you"

crying and screaming Booker said in his message "me and and many other good men refuse to go that route - we will stand for holiness"


gave an example of how the PAW lost its standards and holiness.


said he would still fellowship his close (ulta-con) friends that stay in the upc
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Allright! My Dad John Eckstadt left Jackson college in 1975 and moved us to Ft. Worth where he taught at Mark Hanby's Wide World Of Ministries Bible College.

Right in the heart of Mark Hanby and Kenneth Phillips talking about buying a TV Studio.

When we left Jackson Tommy Craft said scaving things to my Dad about his leaving and about both Mark Hanby and Kenneth Phillips.

I know that MH and KP have gone in their directions over the past 30 years.

I don't believe for a moment that Kenneth or Wanda Phillips talked to him or made any of these statements.

I also saw Tommy Craft within feet of MH and KP at a preconference rally at the Capus Drive Church of Mark Hanby in 1975.

I see Kenneth Phillips on Friday Night Lights. He does not look beated down because of TV.

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Old 11-19-2007, 09:35 AM
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*** UPDATE*** MORE REVELATIONS ***


(((Attention Keith and Renda)))


In the church directory he is listed but on the online ministers directory https://wec.upci.org/ministers/default.asp

he is not listed

Also, regarding Tommy Craft and the phillips, he did not say their names, but said the two men who left in 1977 over tv.

I assumed hanby and phillips. Bookers said one of the preachers has gone down to nothing (that would be hamby correct?)

he said the other preacher has a large church, but looks nothing remotely apostolic - booker said this is the one tommy craft visited, so I assumed ken phillips

I also know that craft and phillips were good friends, phillips even came to the jackson homecoming last year.

So that is how I deduced ken and wanda phillips names - it maybe inaccurate, but who else would it be ??????
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Old 11-19-2007, 09:35 AM
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LOL! I have had the same thought. There are a lot of preachers that have NO business on TV.
Like . . .?
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So, did Booker say this in his sermon?

Or, was this just an added comment?

I don't believe it at all.
Go to inlandlighthouse.com

Go to the sermoms online link

The sermon tiltled "protecting the bean patch".

It is only on audio...of coarse...LOL.

He told the story but left out the names...so you'd have to be knowledgeable of the the "friends" of TC to know it was the Phillips....he also talked abot Mark Hamby....

Thad's original post was a truthful (except with the names added) I just listened to the sermon....
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I have seen so many lies posted. The best one is the one Triumphant 1 did his best to combat. You know, the hair cutting party thing?

Prominent members of this board chose to believe the lie and even continue to spread it, even though T1 had totally proved it was false.
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Old 11-19-2007, 09:39 AM
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*** UPDATE*** MORE REVELATIONS ***


(((Attention Keith and Renda)))


In the church directory he is listed but on the online ministers directory https://wec.upci.org/ministers/default.asp

he is not listed

Also, regarding Tommy Craft and the phillips, he did not say their names, but said the two men who left in 1977 over tv.

I assumed hanby and phillips. Bookers said one of the preachers has gone down to nothing (that would be hamby correct?)

he said the other preacher has a large church, but looks nothing remotely apostolic - booker said this is the one tommy craft visited, so I assumed ken phillips

I also know that craft and phillips were good friends, phillips even came to the jackson homecoming last year.

So that is how I deduced ken and wanda phillips names - it maybe inaccurate, but who else would it be ??????
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Old 11-19-2007, 09:45 AM
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His altar call was to call all the kids 12 and under to the platform....

He used the as an object lesson to say, This is why we are not going that way...these kids deserve a chance to be a part of a move of God....to get drunk on the Holy Ghost....We're not goingto let them go to hell in a hand basket....I want my babies to feel and know God"

That'll pull the ole heartstrings and solidify the young couples to his new direction...

BTW THAD, did you notice how he didn't use any scripture past his text? All he did was tell one "horror story" after the next about ex-UPC preachers and churches.....glad to see his sermon so heavily rooted in the word....
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I have seen so many lies posted. The best one is the one Triumphant 1 did his best to combat. You know, the hair cutting party thing?

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Old 11-19-2007, 09:45 AM
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Did you Hear about Larry Booker's Latest controversial message???????

here are bits and pieces (quotes) taken from it.


give your opinion, good or bad so that we can discuss it.



Booker told his church this past sunday night about how the tv vote went - said the organization took a turn towards destruction. He also said he was suprised at how many ministers nationwide are not happy.


Booker went on to say that the day of the vote was such an emotional day of sadness just like when JFK was shot and when the towers were hit on 9/11. He got the same feeling when the vote passed as on 9/11.


It is interesting to note that the original vote against tv took place in Tulsa in 1955 - maybe that's why they picked Tulsa as the place to form the new organization - to make a statement?


Also, Tommy Craft went to see Ken Phillips before the vote and apparently Wanda Phillips pleaded with Tommy Craft saying "don't let the movement (upc) go the way we did in regards to television. TV will steal everything from you"

crying and screaming Booker said in his message "me and and many other good men refuse to go that route - we will stand for holiness"


gave an example of how the PAW lost its standards and holiness.


said he would still fellowship his close (ulta-con) friends that stay in the upc

Are these actually QUOTES, as promised? Most of the paragraphs are not quotes. For clearest communication, please provide actual quotes (I assume that you have the actual sermon...)




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