It's Time To Get Over It

[Theresa]

Originally Posted by True Believer

What if there are no other churches around you? I know of an area of the country (which shall remain nameless) that the UPCI churches are at least 1 1/2 hours away from each other. Not so easy to just go to another one. Then the pastor of the other one wants a letter from your old pastor. (What do you think that letter will say? Anything good probably not). There are no other Oneness churches around in this particular area that I am aware of, so what do those people do?

does it have to be a UPC church? There is no church of any kind that preaches truth?

Get the letter - be open with the new pastor and work through it - if it doesnt work out, at least you tried..dont just sit at home on a MAYBE

So you still cant find a church? Start having bible studies in your own home....you and your family. "assemble yourselves together"....invite your neighbors...

before long, there just might be a church in your area...


or they could stay at home and complain. I'm sure since they've been in much prayer about this that God says it ok for them to just sit at home and wither up and die spiritually b/c they arent being fed...I mean really, there inst a church in their town. God knows this...so its ok.

[MrsMcD]

There are people that believe if you aren't going to an Apostolic church, you might as well not go to church at all.

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Kutless

In my community there are leash laws. Also if a dog becomes a threat to a neighborhood its time to break out the "ole pistola".

What if that dog got loose and harmed or killed a child?

Any dog figurative or real that hurts children deserves to be figuratively or really shot.

[nathan_slatter]

Originally Posted by Theresa

surely you arent that niave...


figure it out for your self...but do SOMETHING

I'm not -- you want to make certain proclamations, I merely wanted to know what your concept of these things are.

I have figured it out and I am doing something. The thing is that you and I will not agree as to what these things are. And, frankly, neither of us are wrong.

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by MrsMcD

There are people that believe if you aren't going to an Apostolic church, you might as well not go to church at all.

And...there are people that would have you to be in the dregs and destruction of sin than to attend any other church other than an A-church.

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Hot Coffee Ms.

It’s time to get over it and pray through this situation. Aren’t you people adults? So stop acting like a child who wants sympathy, and a pat on the back, and you want someone to tell you that it’s ok. You know it‘s not ok not to have a church. You say you’ve been hurt by your pastor, and pulled out of the UPC, or all church attendance anywhere. You hate all pastors everywhere because they are all liars you say. And now you can’t trust anyone else to pastor you, so find a church that teaches truth. All Pastors are not cut from the same mold. You need a church and you need a pastor. So stop being so childish and grow up. We can’t hold grudges folks. It’s time to get over whatever the problem is. After all, aren’t you people adults? You sound so childish by starting all these silly threads demeaning the UPC and all Pastors too. It’s time to get over it and Get In A Church Somewhere.

It’s OK with most people if your boss dictates what we should wear. I know plenty who dress in uniform in order to hold a job, but He’s paying us to do this. That makes all the difference. It’s ok if our Boss expects us to report to work on time, and follow some form of standard. And we tolerate it if he gets on our case occasionally, after all he pays our salary, and that makes all difference in the world. We are willing to do lots of things we may not like in order to hold a job, but you will not allow our Pastor to lead you to Jesus.

hummmm

[nathan_slatter]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

hummmm

Exactly...

[Theresa]

Originally Posted by MrsMcD

There are people that believe if you aren't going to an Apostolic church, you might as well not go to church at all.

apostolic as in UPC? what exactly emcompasses an apostolic church? I really dont think I know..


and oh, there will be non upc folks in heaven....
I probably shouldnt have told y'all that, but I just couldnt keep quiet LOL!!!


If you think otherwise, you might wanna get your goodbyes in with Margie...

(cause she's most likely gonna be in heaven)

[Theresa]

Originally Posted by nathan_slatter

I'm not -- you want to make certain proclamations, I merely wanted to know what your concept of these things are.

I have figured it out and I am doing something. The thing is that you and I will not agree as to what these things are. And, frankly, neither of us are wrong.

I never said you were wrong..I never said I disagreed with whatever you are doing...

I said folks should be doing SOMETHING...not just sitting back complaining and talking about how their former pastor/church/organization was so wrong. So? Maybe they were, then do something else.

from what I gather from the original post, you are not in the group she's talking about....

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Theresa

and some people just need an excuse for their lack of committment...

to a pastor or a church....

The bible is very clear about church attendance, blame the preacher all you want but you should be actively looking for a new church home if you cant submit to the one you currently have or had.....To just not go, well, that's on you and it's wrong.......it's far more than a pastor asking his saints to not wear a moustache or short sleeves on the platform.

We all draw our lines in the sand at different points, who cares if some are more conservative than others? Is it REALLY that big of a deal?? You are a grown person, if you dont agree, the pastor isnt going to whip you or hang you from the highest tree at sunset, you just probably wont be on the platform. So?? And if the pastor is some kind of tyrant, well find another one...but get off your butt and LOOK for one!. Stop sitting back and making excuses.

Wonder how long someone would stay employed at McDonalds if they refused to wear that USELESS visor?

In the thirty years since leaving the UPC, my family has never been without a church. Some folks may be wandering in indecision but most are active in the kingdom and have long since moved on.

The strong influence of separation teaching from childhood can be very hard to be released from, this is not only true of the UPC but also of many others with different views. Some believe this is because it is hard to leave truth, however since it is true of other groups that differ from the UPC doctrinally, that is not necessarily accurate. Folks need time to sort things out thru prayer and study, a type of deprogramming or detoxing.

If you are in a church where you just abide by what the leadership says without personal understanding, you are not in relationship with Jesus, you are just religious.

You can certainly serve God in the UPC, but there is a tendency to follow the crowd rather than to 'know Jesus personally'. Does your church encourage you to "personally" know Jesus, not just to know about Him, but to "know" Him in personal fellowship?JMHOs