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Re: Mooney Guns for "Secret" Meeting in Detroit?
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Pel, nice to see you posting again.
The old paths should start with the Bible and the apostles not with those coming out of Trinitarian churches at the turn of the last century. Just as the 16th century reformers held onto some false baggage from the RCC, so did those folks who came out of the mainline churches into Pentecost in the early 1900's.
Maybe you haven't noticed but some the those espousing the old paths you speak of are as nasty and cruel as the ones you say implemented the new agenda (which wasn't really new but as old as the apostles).
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If that is so, then no one was saved from the close of the first century until the dawn of the twentieth. To pass such a judgement would indeed be "nasty and cruel."
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07-12-2009, 07:55 PM
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Re: Mooney Guns for "Secret" Meeting in Detroit?
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I do not think of N.A. Urshan as "one of the early pentecostals."
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He wasn't but his father and uncles were.
N.A. Urshan represents the second generation which always loses something.
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Apostolic in doctrine
Pentecostal in experience
Charismatic in practice
Non-denominational in affiliation
Inter-denominational in fellowship
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07-12-2009, 10:23 PM
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Re: Mooney Guns for "Secret" Meeting in Detroit?
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He wasn't but his father and uncles were.
N.A. Urshan represents the second generation which always loses something.
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07-12-2009, 10:35 PM
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Re: Mooney Guns for "Secret" Meeting in Detroit?
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He wasn't but his father and uncles were.
N.A. Urshan represents the second generation which always loses something.
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Car keys?
Remote control to the TV?
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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07-12-2009, 10:41 PM
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Re: Mooney Guns for "Secret" Meeting in Detroit?
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Car keys?
Remote control to the TV?
To take the garbage out on garbage day?
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Bless me father, for I have sinned... there's one remote that turns on the Closed Captioning within the set and not the cable feed. I like that one better because it doesn't block the names of the people who are hollering at one another... The universals all just seem to switch the cable selections.
Anyhoo, that one came up missing (my bad! - I know it was my bad!). But I played along like "I dunno, I guess we'll never turn that thing off..." My kids finally went out and bought a new remote. I think I've crossed a threshold here of some sort. They now control my television watching behavior - which ain't much, but I gotta have the CC on the way I like it!
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07-12-2009, 10:43 PM
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Re: Mooney Guns for "Secret" Meeting in Detroit?
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Bless me father, for I have sinned... there's one remote that turns on the Closed Captioning within the set and not the cable feed. I like that one better because it doesn't block the names of the people who are hollering at one another... The universals all just seem to switch the cable selections.
Anyhoo, that one came up missing (my bad! - I know it was my bad!). But I played along like "I dunno, I guess we'll never turn that thing off..." My kids finally went out and bought a new remote. I think I've crossed a threshold here of some sort. They now control my television watching behavior - which ain't much, but I gotta have the CC on the way I like it!
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Having the CC on would drive me nuts! Every once in awhile I accidently hit the button that activates it and I have to quickly get it off. Made me thankful I don't have anybody but a Chijuahah deaf in my family and she doesn't watch much TV.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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07-12-2009, 11:40 PM
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Re: Mooney Guns for "Secret" Meeting in Detroit?
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Having the CC on would drive me nuts! Every once in awhile I accidently hit the button that activates it and I have to quickly get it off. Made me thankful I don't have anybody but a Chijuahah deaf in my family and she doesn't watch much TV.
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I and your friend from the desert southwest have much in common.
Am I missing something on this thread? Wasn't this "secret meeting" to be held at a non-UP of C church anyways? Sponsored and hosted by a non-UPC church? What's the big deal from the hq type kind of guys?
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07-13-2009, 12:27 AM
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Re: Mooney Guns for "Secret" Meeting in Detroit?
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Then it's not an "Intentional Confrontation" ... more like "Intentional Innuendo."
IF true ... I'd be upset with PM labeling TFT, RJ and others from the meeting as false prophets - regardless if done by name or innuendo. I'd have more respect if done by name, however, instead of hiding behind innuendo.
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To be fair ... I believe it was MJ another younger speaker, whom some say called himself a "prophet" to the younger generation before the detroit meeting during a meeting in louisiana. I don't think PM was targeting TFT and RJ.
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07-13-2009, 01:15 AM
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Re: Mooney Guns for "Secret" Meeting in Detroit?
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Originally Posted by pelathais
Bless me father, for I have sinned... there's one remote that turns on the Closed Captioning within the set and not the cable feed. I like that one better because it doesn't block the names of the people who are hollering at one another... The universals all just seem to switch the cable selections.
Anyhoo, that one came up missing (my bad! - I know it was my bad!). But I played along like "I dunno, I guess we'll never turn that thing off..." My kids finally went out and bought a new remote. I think I've crossed a threshold here of some sort. They now control my television watching behavior - which ain't much, but I gotta have the CC on the way I like it!
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You haven't tried THIS universal remote yet.
It is called the Harmony One and I can personally attest to its greatness having owned one since Christmas.
ALL if its programming is done via the USB port on the computer using a very easy to follow interface.
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07-14-2009, 10:35 AM
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Re: Mooney Guns for "Secret" Meeting in Detroit?
Ideas stand on their own -- regardless of who says what.
If Satan said you needed to Repent, Be baptized in Jesus' name, and be filled with God's Spirit, would that make this any less true?
Ideas and arguments should ALWAYS be based on what is said, and NOT on who says it.
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