Saddened by NY Grand Jury Decision To NOT Indict

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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Well, to be honest, I doubt PO will even regard these videos. All cops are good.

Bro. Eastman, I am simply not going to respond to anymore of these unintelligent posts. All I want is FULL FACTS. That's what a FULL investigation calls for. Is that so hard to wrap around your brain?

And I have already seen the top video - the Victoria Police Chief says the Officer is ENTITLED TO DUE PROCESS and has PROCEDURAL RIGHTS and that is why he is on paid leave. Good grief, the Chief of Police knows what is the right way of doing things. He launches a criminal investigation for the sole purpose of FULL Transparency. You appear to want me to start acting like Sharpton and Obama - jumping to conclusions without the full evidence? How stupid would that be?

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Originally Posted by n david

I do care. But I'm not an idiot or naive. When the Police Chief apologizes for the actions of the officer; when he acknowledges the officer was wrong for the traffic stop, you can at least admit the officer did something wrong.

Did you even listen to your own video? He said he apologized because he felt it was important as leader of an organization to meet Vasquez and to acknowledge the incident, and because many people can feel isolated and to also make sure Vasquez was all right.

Aside from who was right or wrong - I want to know why the Police Officer responded in the way that he did all the while knowing he was on camera. Is that so hard to wrap around YOUR brain?

[n david]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Bro. Eastman, I am simply not going to respond to anymore of these unintelligent posts. All I want is FULL FACTS. That's what a FULL investigation calls for. Is that so hard to wrap around your brain?

And I have already seen the top video - the Victoria Police Chief says the Officer is ENTITLED TO DUE PROCESS and has PROCEDURAL RIGHTS and that is why he is on paid leave. Good grief, the Chief of Police knows what is the right way of doing things. He launches a criminal investigation for the sole purpose of FULL Transparency. You appear to want me to start acting like Sharpton and Obama - jumping to conclusions without the full evidence? How stupid would that be?

Hear that, Eastman? You're an idiot. Your posts are unintelligent. Only PO posts intelligent information. We are but babbling morons.

Hey PO, you left off the part where the Police Chief apologized to Vasquez and acknowledged the officer was wrong.

[Police Chief JJ] Craig said the police department's dash cam footage "raises some concerns."

He decided to open the investigation after viewing the footage and has personally apologized to Vasquez for the incident.

Because Vasquez was driving a car with dealer tags, the car was exempt, Craig confirmed.

So the video raises concerns to Chief Craig, enough to cause him to personally apologize to Vasquez. Again, why would a Police Chief willingly apologize - especially personally - and admit the traffic stop was wrong if PO is correct and the officer is justified in the incident?

[n david]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Aside from who was right or wrong - I want to know why the Police Officer responded in the way that he did all the while knowing he was on camera. Is that so hard to wrap around YOUR brain?

The dashcam's are turned on automatically when the officer turns on his lights. Pretty gutsy of the officer to continue blasting his misogynistic rap while the dashcam was recording. OR maybe he forgot it was recording. Is that too hard to wrap around YOUR brain? It could be he was rappin' his jam and forgot he was being recorded. You post as though police are unemotional robots, simply going about their job like it's a checklist. They're not. They make mistakes and allow emotions to get the best of them. Not all officers, of course, but it can happen. Everyone has a bad day. Even fine, upstanding officers of the law.

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Bro. Eastman, I am simply not going to respond to anymore of these unintelligent posts. All I want is FULL FACTS. That's what a FULL investigation calls for. Is that so hard to wrap around your brain?

And I have already seen the top video - the Victoria Police Chief says the Officer is ENTITLED TO DUE PROCESS and has PROCEDURAL RIGHTS and that is why he is on paid leave. Good grief, the Chief of Police knows what is the right way of doing things. He launches a criminal investigation for the sole purpose of FULL Transparency. You appear to want me to start acting like Sharpton and Obama - jumping to conclusions without the full evidence? How stupid would that be?

Take a deep breath Sister PO.......now relax...........Feel better?

I understand you do not want to respond to unintelligent posts and that you want FULL FACTS............(see, I can wrap my brain around what you are saying,lol)

Yes, the cop is entitled to due process and he does in fact have procedural rights and that is why he is on paid leave (even though he is on leave nonetheless). That being said, there was still an apology made on BEHALF of the police officer...............(now, can you wrap your brain around that? heh heh!!)

No, I do not want you to act like Obama or Sharpton (please no, I'm a Ted Cruz fan because of you); however, I would like to see you admit that cops do bad things and that not ALL cops are good.

As far as jumping to conclusions, we have seen all the links involved in this case thus far and I would say that I have not jumped to any conclusions other than the fact that cops can be bad sometimes.

Now, you called David an idiot and said that my posts are unintelligent (I could say the same thing about your posts but I will not). I could be offended but I am not because I really love you Sis! All I want is for you to admit that there are bad cops out there.....is that so hard???? LOL!!!!

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by n david

Hear that, Eastman? You're an idiot. Your posts are unintelligent. Only PO posts intelligent information. We are but babbling morons.

Hey PO, you left off the part where the Police Chief apologized to Vasquez and acknowledged the officer was wrong.





So the video raises concerns to Chief Craig, enough to cause him to personally apologize to Vasquez. Again, why would a Police Chief willingly apologize - especially personally - and admit the traffic stop was wrong if PO is correct and the officer is justified in the incident?

Yes I see that, she still has my utmost respect though. I also do not believe for one instant that you are an idiot either.

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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Take a deep breath Sister PO.......now relax...........Feel better?

I understand you do not want to respond to unintelligent posts and that you want FULL FACTS............(see, I can wrap my brain around what you are saying,lol)

Yes, the cop is entitled to due process and he does in fact have procedural rights and that is why he is on paid leave (even though he is on leave nonetheless). That being said, there was still an apology made on BEHALF of the police officer...............(now, can you wrap your brain around that? heh heh!!)

No, I do not want you to act like Obama or Sharpton (please no, I'm a Ted Cruz fan because of you); however, I would like to see you admit that cops do bad things and that not ALL cops are good.

Bro. Eastman, Just because I want to hear the Police Officer's side of the story doesn't mean that I agree that there are no bad cops.

As far as jumping to conclusions, we have seen all the links involved in this case thus far and I would say that I have not jumped to any conclusions other than the fact that cops can be bad sometimes.

Now, you called David an idiot and said that my posts are unintelligent (I could say the same thing about your posts but I will not). I could be offended but I am not because I really love you Sis! All I want is for you to admit that there are bad cops out there.....is that so hard???? LOL!!!!

David was acting like an idiot when he posted this. It's a really stupid post:

Originally Posted by n david

I would wager a cop could be filmed beating an unarmed, disabled person to death and PO would still claim the officer was in the clear and blame the unarmed, disabled, dead person for something.

The conversation becomes unproductive and unintelligent for me when you start gang banging with David.

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Well, to be honest, I doubt PO will even regard these videos. All cops are good.

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Originally Posted by n david

The dashcam's are turned on automatically when the officer turns on his lights. Pretty gutsy of the officer to continue blasting his misogynistic rap while the dashcam was recording. OR maybe he forgot it was recording. Is that too hard to wrap around YOUR brain? It could be he was rappin' his jam and forgot he was being recorded. You post as though police are unemotional robots, simply going about their job like it's a checklist. They're not. They make mistakes and allow emotions to get the best of them. Not all officers, of course, but it can happen. Everyone has a bad day. Even fine, upstanding officers of the law.

David, Go and watch Serpico and get over it.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

The conversation becomes unproductive and unintelligent for me when you start gang banging with David.

Talk about idiotic and unintelligent. "Gang banging?" Do you even know what that is?

Good grief.

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Originally Posted by n david

Talk about idiotic and unintelligent. "Gang banging?" Do you even know what that is?

Good grief.

Yes, I do. It has a couple of meanings and I am referring to violent activities of a criminal gang. It doesn't have to take on the definition you are referring to. Ganging up on someone is gang banging. It's like a mob mentality.