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Old 08-12-2007, 07:41 PM
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Yes, I know. We will have glorified bodies.

So I guess I answered your question then. Mystery solved.
My question?..I thought I was anwsering YOUR question?
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Old 08-12-2007, 07:45 PM
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Jude 1:9-Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee

Moses was a type of Christ..

This is a great mystery and I do not think anyone knows the anwser..

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Since Jesus' body was glorified would He not be in heaven as a physical being?
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Well, we're going to "see" Jesus when we get to heaven. Paul couldn't see God. How could He? He was still alive and well on planet Earth.
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Yes I believe we will see Jesus when we wake up on the other side..but remember..We will not be in this same body...We will have spiritual bodies 1 cor 15


When Paul did see Jesus he was blinded for 3 days...Acts 9:3,9
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Yes, I know. We will have glorified bodies.

So I guess I answered your question then. Mystery solved.
Actually, you didn't ask a question. Just stated it was a great mystery. But to me there is no mystery because Jesus is physically in heaven. He has to be otherwise we'll not be able to "see" Him and Scripture teaches we will see Him.

There ya go.
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Old 08-12-2007, 07:50 PM
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My question?..I thought I was anwsering YOUR question?
It wasn't meant to be a question where I was looking for an answer. It was a question looking for agreement. You agreed. I think. LOL.
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Old 08-12-2007, 08:52 PM
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It wasn't meant to be a question where I was looking for an answer. It was a question looking for agreement. You agreed. I think. LOL.
LOL..I sort of agree..I do not believe Jesus has the SAME flesh he left this earth in today..I will see him AS HE IS when I am changed to be able to behold him in the spiritual realm...

I believe the Apostles in Acts 1:9 were the last eyewitnesses to see the ressurected Christ in that body he had that day..they watched him ascend into the sky and was recieved out of their site..no one has seen him since..that is that body he left in..His next recorded appearing was to the Apostle Paul..and Paul did not describe a physical body appearance but rather he described a light shone from heaven...I believe that was somehow a "glimpse" of the glory Jesus has now..Just as his Mount of Transfiguration appearance was a glimpse of the glory that shall be revealed.....

1 John 3:2 is very interesting...The writer of course is John..who had been a witness of the ressurection..He saw Jesus for 40 days..and I believe He had a real good look of the Ressurected Christ and no doubt saw him and believed He indeed arose from the dead...in that scripture John wrote

Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

Even though John saw a risen glorified body..He still goes on to say..It does not yet appear..what we shall be...otherwords..the body He saw that Jesus had.. is not what we will have ..upon our ressurection at death..

I have met some people who believe Jesus still has the same glorified body He left in today...I simply find no support for that..
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Old 08-17-2007, 05:57 PM
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The meaning like us is somewhat different by definition than we being born in sin whereas he wasnt! We need salvation as he IS SALVATION.


He is a Life Quickening spirit where as we must recieve HIS ,THAT to become eternally saved into resurection forever more.



Divine flesh ,be it physical body (NO) or is it the SOUL?As there are heavenly bodies as in Earthly bodies.


In him no sin found to be tempted to bring out such SIN (NO) we are not perfect and yet see through a dark glass dimly.



Satan is the Tempter not Yeshua himself.Satan being the one tempted GOD as well as these three are One.


Everyone admits that the physical body of jesus christ was flesh and blood of the earth however he wasnt of the earth earthly.Huge difference.Eating and sleeping isnt the proof of one being human or humane.For Sinners and saints alike eat and sleep.



A doctrine in which Apostolics have created to justify there Greek doctrine of Dualism.Melito of sardis is the one credited with creating the dual nature doctrine, not the Oneness folks durring the preteristic period.


As the ole saying goes to be a GOD is to be Divine but to be a human being is to be not perfect.



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Divine flesh is revealed as error when we consider that the contrast of Christ's flesh being heavenly, and our flesh being earthly is a contrast of Christ's POST RESURRECTION flesh, and not the flesh He was born with. His FLESH CHANGED. Our's shall change as well. It is not speaking about origins of flesh as though Christ's was from heaven when He was born while Adam's was not. It is speaking about what Christ's IS NOW SINCE THE resurrection.
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Shalom Shalom


The meaning like us is somewhat different by definition than we being born in sin whereas he wasnt! We need salvation as he IS SALVATION.


He is a Life Quickening spirit where as we must recieve HIS ,THAT to become eternally saved into resurection forever more.



Divine flesh ,be it physical body (NO) or is it the SOUL?As there are heavenly bodies as in Earthly bodies.


In him no sin found to be tempted to bring out such SIN (NO) we are not perfect and yet see through a dark glass dimly.



Satan is the Tempter not Yeshua himself.Satan being the one tempted GOD as well as these three are One.


Everyone admits that the physical body of jesus christ was flesh and blood of the earth however he wasnt of the earth earthly.Huge difference.Eating and sleeping isnt the proof of one being human or humane.For Sinners and saints alike eat and sleep.



A doctrine in which Apostolics have created to justify there Greek doctrine of Dualism.Melito of sardis is the one credited with creating the dual nature doctrine, not the Oneness folks durring the preteristic period.


As the ole saying goes to be a GOD is to be Divine but to be a human being is to be not perfect.



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Divine flesh is revealed as error when we consider that the contrast of Christ's flesh being heavenly, and our flesh being earthly is a contrast of Christ's POST RESURRECTION flesh, and not the flesh He was born with. His FLESH CHANGED. Our's shall change as well. It is not speaking about origins of flesh as though Christ's was from heaven when He was born while Adam's was not. It is speaking about what Christ's IS NOW SINCE THE resurrection.
Many believe NOW Jesus still has the SAME body He left with...Paul would not agree in Acts 9 when Paul SAW HIM..
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Many believe NOW Jesus still has the SAME body He left with...Paul would not agree in Acts 9 when Paul SAW HIM..
I think Paul would agree perfectly well. Jesus had a spiritual body upon resurrection. Just as we will. And Jesus CHANGED FORMS.

Mar 16:9 KJV Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.

Mar 16:12 KJV After that he appeared in another form unto two of them, as they walked, and went into the country.

That is why He appeared as the gardener in one instance and they did not know him.

Where does the bible say He lost the body He resurrected with? Paul simply saw "another form".
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When the bible says something is a great mystery, like Paul in the case of the resurrection/rapture, Paul was saying this was HIDDEN before HE PREACHED IT. It was a mystery when he first gave it because no one else ever knew of it. After he revealed it, it was no longer a mystery. Simple! This follows 1 Cor 2 and the context of what a "mystery" is.
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