I Will Aoplogize To Dom

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Just curious, how is it most of us here have a pretty good idea what he believes, but you seem not to?

I told Mike over and over. Remember when you even gave a little synopsis of what I believed in the eschatology section? I think it was even to respond to Mike (if memory serves me) but what I find more interesting is how Mike is so easily controlled. How I keep him up, and continually checking the forum to see if I have responded to him. Yes, everyone has a good idea as to what I believe. I have posted it enough through the years. I just won’t do it for Mike, or Aquila.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I think I know what he believes. I think he is a full preterist. He denies this. So what would be so hard about him stating his belief that he REALLY holds?

So you claim you know what Dom believes. Good.

Does he believe Jesus came and raised his sleeping (dead) people into immortality in 70ad?

Does he believe the living saints received immortality at that time also?

Does he believe any future resurrection will just be when one dies and (theoretically) goes straight to Heaven?

Does he believe we are right now living in the New Heavens and the New Earth?

That the judgment day occured in 70ad?

If you know his belief please share.

Now you are going after Esaias?

What a jerk you are.

Perfect and pure huh?

Satan and YAH are going to abduct you and carry you off in their spaceship.
Probably right in the middle of you baptizing a Fort Lauderdale housewife in your jacuzzi. Hey, when you do those baptisms do you wear your burlap bag t-shirt?

[Evang.Benincasa]

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Everytime a bell rings an angel gets his wings.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I think I know what he believes. I

think he is a full preterist. He denies this

. So what would be so hard about him stating his belief that he REALLY holds?

So you claim you know what Dom believes. Good.

Does he believe Jesus came and raised his sleeping (dead) people into immortality in 70ad?

Does he believe the living saints received immortality at that time also?

Does he believe any future resurrection will just be when one dies and (theoretically) goes straight to Heaven?

Does he believe we are right now living in the New Heavens and the New Earth?

That the judgment day occured in 70ad?

If you know his belief please share.

I have never denied that. You are a lying religious loon.

I deny a rapture in 70 A.D.

Look Pure and Perfect, if I EVER denied being full, Elder Michael Blume would raise an eyebrow, and then ask, what do I currently believe.

Mr Pure and Perfect?

Yeah, Mike it really shows

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I am not ashamed of what I teach. You will see for yourself what I teach. Then you be the judge of it. I will not put it in this thread to distract from its purpose but I will be glad to share what I believe. I have various threads on the topic that I can easily link you to.

And by the way if you are a full preterist why not present your doctrine in a clear, concise and brief manner here on the thread. After all there is no rule on this Forum stating you cannot be a full preterist and post here.

I know what Evangelical Prets believe pretty much. This would be a good chance to lay it out.

If you want to put a long study here go for it. If you and Dom do NOT believe in full Preterism present what you DO BELIEVE. Maybe you are a partial Pret like Mike Blume? If so we can save a lot of time if you just say so.

When I ask Dom to do this he just starts asking ME questions. Why not allow me to hear the doctrine FIRST......

Um, MTD, I believe I was one of the first to join AFF. I've never hidden anything about what I believed on eschatology...and if anything, I have been too open about it.

James Anderson and I did the first eschatology debate ever held in the AFF debate forum. I didn't look, but I believe that is still there.

And then there is the fact that on every post I've ever made I include a link to my Website. That Website includes lots of info that clearly tell what I believe.

So, the idea I somehow hide what I believe about eschatology is true only to you.

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

TK BURK

My teaching on Biblical holiness and perfection is on the menu in the Fellowship Hall.

A simple yes or no would have answered my first question. And a simple explanation would have answered my second. I really did not want to wade through an entire thread to get an answer for what I asked you. So, can you please just respond?

[Esaias]

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[Esaias]

Some guy asked brother Benincasa a couple of direct questions, and here was the response:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Jacob became Israel, Israel had sons these sons had children, these children became tribes these tribes made God mad.

These tribes wanted a king, and didn't want God, the first king was a hypocrite, and would repent, and mess up, repent, and mess up.

The next king God loved, because he would mess up, and repent also, but because he loved God, God loved him. The first king just loved being a king.

The second king had a son who would build a temple, and this temple would be the throne room of God, and all of Israel was supposed to pray at this temple. A stiff warning was given in 1st Kings 9:6-9, and that warning was if they stopped loving God, He would remove His temple and they would become an object lesson for all generations.

The third king dies, and two kings arose in his place, one goes south and the other goes north. The northen kingdom goes into idolatry, and the southern kingdom becomes cruel.

The northern kingdom disappears and gets mingled with Gentiles, and the southern kingdom later gets God angry and is sent and preserved in Babylon.
The king of Babylon is used as a tool of God to punish this cruel souuthern kingdom, and the prophet to this southern kingdom is told that for 70 years they would be in captivity.

After the 70 years is up another pagan king releases the Jews and helps them to rebuild their temple and city.

This southern kingdom was foretold that it would be under occupation of tthe Babylonians, Media Persia, Greeks, Romans, and then they would politically mingle themselves with the Romans. The Romans would hate them, and they would hate the Romans.

Their Christ would come born as the prophets foretold, and 30 years later He would come and teach and preach and warn the Jewish people of an impending danger, all those Jews had to repent and be baptized calling on tthe name of the Lord. Jesus had a forrunner who was a baptizer, and he also warned of a coming danger and that the kingdom of God was coming to manifest itself. Those religious who sought to be baptized were refused, and witth that refusal these words were spoken, "Who hath warned you to flee the wrath to come?"

Obviously there was a wrath, and that wrath was closing in on that Jewish world. Their true coming King was there and ready to right all wrongs, and He would be rejected by the high priest and the rest of the rulers, and they the potter's clay would use the iron to crucify their King.

After the death burial and resurrection of their King, He promises to return within a generation of the time of His death burial and resurrection.

Within 40 years the followers of the King preach the Kings message and gather all those together natural branches and wild branches, a remnant of the domestic branches are taken in and the wild branches continue to be taken in to this day,

When the time of Roman occupation comes to its end all the remnant who accepted their True King are taken in, and the cup is filled to the brim, the army of the Roman Empire surround Jerusalem and lay her even with the ground with her children in her. The old Jewish Law system and her government destroyed and thrown into the wine press of God, the angel had thrust in its sickle and gathered the grapes of wrath. All those who took part in the Jewish law system's world from the one who broke the first law to those who broke the last law, all stood before their king in judgement. Those who slept in the dust of the earth stood before their judge.
In a momeent in a twinkle of an eye, at the last trumpet, those who slept were awoken, and those who were not yet sleeping in death would never have to ever go to a death sleep but went on to be with the Lord at their deaths.

Only one Kingdom would go forth, and only one saving message, and only one people who make up one temple. They only have one leader and only listen to His voice and another they will never follow.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

So the idea that he just doesnt answer questions is simply false. *I've* never had a problem asking him questions.

So, as my dad used to tell me all the time, "Sounds like a personal problem. Life in the big city doowah diddy."

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Some guy asked brother Benincasa a couple of direct questions, and here was the response:




So the idea that he just doesnt answer questions is simply false. *I've* never had a problem asking him questions.

So, as my dad used to tell me all the time, "Sounds like a personal problem. Life in the big city doowah diddy."

I told Mike to go to the eschatology section if he wanted to find what I believe. But Mike LOVES strife instead of righteousness. His truth is all that matters to him. When he gets caught in a crack he then starts whining about eschatology. Accusing me of dodging him. Now he posted that I even denied it? Just a liar who hangs out on the internet pontificating and self publicizing.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I have never denied that. You are a lying religious loon.

I deny a rapture in 70 A.D.

Look Pure and Perfect, if I EVER denied being full, Elder Michael Blume would raise an eyebrow, and then ask, what do I currently believe.

Mr Pure and Perfect?

Yeah, Mike it really shows

Oh? Now you are saying you never denied you are a full preterist?

Well then I was right about you all along. There is no apology necessary to you. You have lied and deceived through many threads and posts.

You say you deny A RAPTURE took place in 70ad.

This is the way Prets operate. Take a word and strangle the life out of it so you can hide behind what you really believe.

The whole point has been did what is commonly called the rapture altho all it means is the saints being gathered to Christ for immortality occur in 70ad. Did the resurrection of the dead in Christ occur in 70ad.

So to confuse and blur the issue you deny a "rapture" happened. But you believe Jesus came and gathered the saints.

OK.

I affirm that Matthew 24, Luke 21 and Mark 13 are past and all fulfilled in 70 A.D.

Signed Evangelist Dominic Benincasa

Signed by you.

So what most Christians call the rapture or at least the gathering together of Christians to Jesus you affirm happened in 70ad.

Thats what I have been saying all along.

You are a liar and a deceiver.