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10-02-2011, 10:49 PM
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Re: You think Trinitarians accept you?
The blogs I posted were just a few. Type into google; the elephant room, td jakes
See just how many people have a problem with OP's. Again while you might not know who they are, I promise you that they are very influential in their circles which are quite large and well organized.
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Re: You think Trinitarians accept you?
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Trins do not teach 3 similtaneous modes of existence. Thats what they oppose. Thats what ONENESS TEACHES. There probably are some who dont understand Trinity who say that. Their Teachers would be very disappointed when they hear it.
We have been told the Ancient Trins taught the "persona" thing but why the hatred for Sabellius? That Exactly what HE TAUGHT.
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I understand that. Just pointing out sometimes I can read a statement of faith with words like triune, trinity or persons and think "personas" to make it work for me.
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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10-02-2011, 10:57 PM
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Re: You think Trinitarians accept you?
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Trins do not teach 3 similtaneous modes of existence. Thats what they oppose. Thats what ONENESS TEACHES. There probably are some who dont understand Trinity who say that. Their Teachers would be very disappointed when they hear it.
We have been told the Ancient Trins taught the "persona" thing but why the hatred for Sabellius? That Exactly what HE TAUGHT.
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I think that ALL of the Trinitarian believers I know believe this way.
They point to the baptism of Jesus as irrefutable Bible evidence for their doctrine-- an instance where all Three are manifested.
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10-02-2011, 11:02 PM
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Re: You think Trinitarians accept you?
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The blogs I posted were just a few. Type into google; the elephant room, td jakes
See just how many people have a problem with OP's. Again while you might not know who they are, I promise you that they are very influential in their circles which are quite large and well organized.
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They have a problem with Pentecostals in general or anyone that is not in the same belief system they are in. They are elitist, sectarian, judgmental and for the most part very anti-pentecostal of any kind.
The same things you say about them can be said of the Pope and the Roman Catholic Church. That certainly does not validate them in any way. I have never heard of them before I read about their Elephant Room meeting on this forum - that's how "influential" they are! HA!
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10-02-2011, 11:08 PM
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Re: You think Trinitarians accept you?
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They have a problem with Pentecostals in general or anyone that is not in the same belief system they are in. They are elitist, sectarian, judgmental and for the most part very anti-pentecostal of any kind.
The same things you say about them can be said of the Pope and the Roman Catholic Church. That certainly does not validate them in any way. I have never heard of them before I read about their Elephant Room meeting on this forum - that's how "influential" they are! HA!
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I didn't mean that they were influential to OP's, lol. They're about as influential to OP's as you are to them. They do have large congregations, blogs that many read, radio programs, and some TV programs. I think that this could lead into a renewed effort to teach the trinity which could open the door for us too. Be prepared for it and don't be fooled by thinking they think you're OK.
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10-02-2011, 11:13 PM
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Re: You think Trinitarians accept you?
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I think that ALL of the Trinitarian believers I know believe this way.
They point to the baptism of Jesus as irrefutable Bible evidence for their doctrine-- an instance where all Three are manifested.
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Jerm, I think we are just saying it is Oneness that claims modes of existence in lieu of persons terminology. I also believe many Trinitarians are practically in agreement.
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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10-02-2011, 11:14 PM
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Re: You think Trinitarians accept you?
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So in your theology, does baptisms performed accidentally in the Name of Jesus count as correct?
In the context of this video, it is clear that he intended to baptize using the Titles, went back to praying, and then forgot to finish his liturgy.
The AoG church I attend purposely uses the Name of Jesus in their baptisms.
This guy lost his train of thought.
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No it was not an accident.
Observe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKALNESels8
I have mentioned that they seem to be intransition into a better understanding of Acts 2:38 baptism. Im not saying they believe in Oneness. I was baptized in Jesus name before I came into the full revelation of who Jesus is myself. And yes my baptism and the baptism you see here are completely valid IMO.
If your Assembly Of God baptizes this way good for them.
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10-02-2011, 11:18 PM
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Re: You think Trinitarians accept you?
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No it was not an accident.
Observe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKALNESels8
I have mentioned that they seem to be intransition into a better understanding of Acts 2:38 baptism. Im not saying they believe in Oneness. I was baptized in Jesus name before I came into the full revelation of who Jesus is myself. And yes my baptism and the baptism you see here are completely valid IMO. |
I am not only ok with this. I specifically like it.
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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10-02-2011, 11:25 PM
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Re: You think Trinitarians accept you?
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
I think that ALL of the Trinitarian believers I know believe this way.
They point to the baptism of Jesus as irrefutable Bible evidence for their doctrine-- an instance where all Three are manifested.
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Hi Jeremy,
Do this for me if you can. Find the website of any Trinitarian Church or organization. Show me where they say the Trinity is three similtaneous modes of existence. Give me the link.
While I am waiting I could say with all confidence I could find countless Trinitarian sites that say the Trinity is 3 distinct persons and that each one is God.
Also Bro the baptism thing does not hold water because there are NOT 3 co eternal persons at the baptism. Does God need to be baptized in water? Jesus was baptized as a MAN not as a co eternal person of the Godhead.
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10-02-2011, 11:51 PM
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Re: You think Trinitarians accept you?
I just noticed something. The 2 ministers on this video are the ones that I have specifically heard this past year teaching truth on water baptism. I have heard Wes Hall (the one on the platform) say one is not fully born again without water baptism and Spirit baptism.
The one doing the baptism is the director of Evangelism at IHOP, Hal Lindhart . The last time he preached he said he wanted to honor Wes for his stand on water baptism. Then he said if there is anyone here who has not been baptized you are in sin.
Now I perceive that the Pastor is not promoting this and I think it may come to a head down the road.
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