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Old 09-14-2010, 09:43 AM
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Re: Trinity and Oneness in The Church?

This is an excerpt from Bishop G.T. Haywood's book on The Resurrection.
He teaches that there is a first and second resurrection, that the church and tribulation saints are in that first resurrection and that at the second resurrection (Matthew 25:31-46; Revelation 20:5, 6, 11-15) some would go into everlasting blessing and some into everlasting punishment.

Here is part of the book:

FIRST AND SECOND RESURRECTION
That there is a first and second resurrection of the dead the
scriptures plainly declare. But who shall be partakers thereof,
especially the first resurrection, is a thing that has not been
clearly explained.

We have generally understood the first resurrection to be those
who are saved, and the second resurrection to be composed of the
wicked, or unsaved. Then again there is a teaching that there is but
one literal resurrection of the dead and at that time Jesus will sit
on the throne of His glory and separate the "righteous from the
wicked" as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats." This though
is derived from Matt. 25:31, 32.

Revelation 20:4-6, says "Blessed and Holy is he that hath part in
the first resurrection," and "the rest of the dead live not again
until the thousand years were finished." And these words are true and
faithful. Rev. 19:9;22:6. According to the foregoing passages there is
a thousand years between the first and second resurrections.

This being true, who then are the "righteous that are separated from
the wicked as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats?"
Difference Between the Righteous and Holy.

If we will notice Rev. 20:6 we will see that they who take part
in the first resurrection are "blessed and holy." We only have to look
closely into the Word of God to find that there is difference between
the righteous and the holy. He that is righteous, let him be righteous
still; and he that is holy, let him be holy still - Rev. 22:11.

In Hebrew the word "holy" is "kodesh" which means a sacred place, or
thing, consecrated (thing); dedicated (thing) holiness, a saint, a
sanctuary; while the word righteous is "tsaddeek," which means just,
lawful, righteous (man) or to make right in a moral sense, to clear
one's self, to justify self. From this we can see that righteousness
is moral actions, while holiness is a consecrated state.

Holy people are those whose lives are consecrated to God by the
Holy Spirit's indwelling. The prophets were called "holy" because of
the Holy Ghost that is upon them and in them. - 2 Pet. 1:21; Eph. 3:5.
Holiness can only be claimed by those who are filled with the Holy
spirit. Prophets,: priests, kings and special chosen people before
Christ were called "holy" but the others who walked in obedience to
the law were called righteous men. - Matt. 13:17. It was Moses who
said about 1490 years before Christ, "Would God that all of the Lord's
people were prophets, and that the Lord could put His (holy) Spirit
upon them." Num. 11:29. In Joel 2:28, we find God promising to fulfill
Moses' desires. If they were all to; be prophets (Rev. 19:10) and
filled with the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:16, 17,) that it could be seen
that in the new dispensation (of grace) God's people were not only be
righteous, but holy also. - (Isa. 62:12; Luke 1:74, 75.)

From the above mentioned scriptures it can be clearly seen that
there is a difference between the holy and the righteous. Holiness is
found in the Holy Spirit-filled life. - (See 1 Thess. 4:7,8). There
are many who are called holy who are only righteous, because they have
not been partakers of the Holy Ghost. There is a true holiness. (Eph.
4:24) It is the Holy Spirit-filled people who shall take part in the
first resurrection. The "blessed" are those who "die in the Lord"
during the tribulation period and are "called to the marriage supper
of the lamb." - Rev. 14:13; 19:9; 20:6
...

The Second Resurrection.
According to the inspired word of God the resurrection of the
"blessed and Holy" is completed a thousand years before the second
resurrection. It is from this point that we are obliged to note the
difference between partakers of the two resurrections.

After the thousand years expire "the rest of the dead" (those who
did not come forth in the first resurrection) both righteous and
wicked, live again and are made to stand before God. It is then that
Jesus separates them as a shepherd divideth the sheep from the goat
according to Matt. 25:31-46.

In this resurrection is included all the righteous men of all
ages who walked in all the light that they were given. It is my candid
opinion that all heathen, Israelites, Christian professors who have
never heard the true gospel of Christ and those who die during
the millennium, walking in the light of their times will be given
eternal life at the last resurrection.

Many righteous people have died without the Holy Ghost and
the question has been asked: "Where will they come in?" They shall be
given eternal life in the last day. They shall inherit the New
Earth where life eternal reigns because "there shall be no more death.
If we desire to take part in the first resurrection we must be
filled with the same Holy Spirit that raised Jesus from the dead. It
is the church of the First-born that takes part in the first
resurrection. To enter into that Church, which is his body, we must be
baptized into it by both water and the Spirit. (See John 3:5; Rom.
6:3-5; 1 Cor. 12:12, 13; Gal. 3:26-28.

The time for the first resurrection is at hand. Are you
preparing to meet the Bridegroom? You must get oil within your vessels
and have your lamps trimmed and burning. Soon shall we hear the
midnight cry - "BEHOLD, THE BRIDEGROOM COMETH."
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Old 09-14-2010, 10:25 AM
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Re: Trinity and Oneness in The Church?

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I can't answer that question from God's standpoint because I don't know that woman's heart like God does.

When Paul went to Athens (Acts 17:15-34, probably August AD 50) it is reported that his spirit was stirred within him when he saw the whole city given to idolatry. He went to the synagogue as was his custom since he was a Rabbi and could teach there. He also talked to people in the market/agora. His message in the agora was twofold --Iesous and anastasia (Jesus and the resurrection). Some thought he was teaching a new male and female deity. He was brought to the Areopagus or Mars Hill, a large rock 370 feet high NW of Athens to investigate these "new gods" that Paul seemed to be preaching. Paul had seen altars and monuments to many gods all around him in the city. He even saw one to "the unknown god" (agnosto theo) and he took that as his text. He told them that they were very superstitious/religious and that he was going to tell them about that unknown god they were worshipping. He began there and quoted a few of their poets. They weren't Jews with Scriptures so he couldn't start there. He explained that they didn't realize it but they were worshipping the one true God as "the unknown god." He went on to explain that this unknown god was the creator of all; He didn't need us to carry Him around and feed Him because He was the giver of life and breath; that He is everywhere present all around us; that He made all humankind from one blood; that we are to seek Him; that since we are His offspring He would look like us -not like some kind of an animal; that He had given us freedom but now it was time to seek Him because He was going to raise all humankind from the dead and judge them just like He had raised His son from the dead.

Well, it is my understanding that Paul believed those folks were actually worshiping the one true God as the unknown god. If that was true back then, would it be too great a stretch to say that if a person was taught that there is only one God and His name is Allah, and that person was trying to worship the one true God instead of idols or many gods, the person was really worshiping the one true God in ignorance?

The Mars Hill story is one of the most fascinating of the bible and opens SO many doors to discussion. Great post!
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