No. Cross burning with an intent to intimidate is not protected by the First Amendment. I would suspect that under the right conditions burning a Koran could also fall into that category.
Yes but my question is merely burning a Quran is not illegal.
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Maybe they should pile up several of them, drench them in water (that's H2O-- no cheating!), and call fire down from heaven. Now that would make a statement.
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Maybe they should pile up several of them, drench them in water (that's H2O-- no cheating!), and call fire down from heaven. Now that would make a statement.
For an even bolder statement, they could set up a pile of Bibles and invite some imams to pray fire down on them, first.
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Maybe they should pile up several of them, drench them in water (that's H2O-- no cheating!), and call fire down from heaven. Now that would make a statement.
maybe water will be enough.
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
Maybe they should pile up several of them, drench them in water (that's H2O-- no cheating!), and call fire down from heaven. Now that would make a statement.
This post was not entirely directed at you or your posting Prax most was just general comment.
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Are they really Christians? How do you know? I know a Missionary that spent time in SA. They are forbidden to own bibles, forbidden to bring them into the country. Forbidden to hold meetings. All meetings have to be clandestine. Why do "Christians" go there? Same reason Filipinos go there., They go for jobs. Same reason why Muslims come to America I hope, but we dont confiscate their Qurans. We don't forbid them from telling others about their religion. We don't criminalize having Islamic services. We don't kick them out of the country if they are caught.
The Filipinos are christian also (for the most part LOL). Why do you think Muslims come to the US? Same reason Filipinos come here. For jobs, opportunity, etc.
I know they are christians because they ask us who are already here in public forum before they leave the US and other countries about things such as their Bibles and they bring them in. The rate is high enough to have received comment in the Arab News on censorship.
I know of nobody who has reported having a Bible confiscated and if I did I would note it on here as I do not believe in censorship either here or there. There is a difference in Saudi Arabia between a Missionary who arrives to push the idea into the community (not good LOL) and a foreign worker who arrives and practices their religion with other workers.
You seem to be hung up on America vs SA, which I didn't care about to begin with. I wasn't in that discussion. You just brought it to me which is a red herring and has nothing to do with what I said or the point I was making.
Believe me - SA stands out as the worst even to those from neighboring (Muslim) countries. SA is exampled only because we currently live here only and I would prefer to example experience only. Indonesia, where we also lived and where my wife is from, is completely different. I recall a distant cousin who was a (Pentecostal or some version of it as I recall) missionary to Indonesia and they did very well. He and his wife even speak passable Bahasa LOL.
No no no. They should stop. You speak of penalizing, I speak of stopping. I speak of reciprocal equivocal mutual peace and freedom of religion. What do you speak of?
I speak of America being better than other countries and protection of the right to practice religion (all religions) might extend to protection from one religion attacking another.
Here is what I think. Most Christians in America might not agree with Islam and have an issue with the extremists but we also stand up against the Quran burners actions and say we are against it. We fight for YOUR right to worship in OUR country in a manner YOUR country will not give to non-Muslims without fear of political or religious reprisals by a state sponsored police force. Yes there are some non-muslims here that don't feel that way, but the rest of us would gladly show you that we support your right. It would be nice of the Muslims around the nation by and large did the same. Again Im not saying all, because I know how impossible it is to get all to do the same.
MY country and YOUR country are the same and I do not wish MY country to deteriorate to the level of those countries of which you speak. As to credit for MY right to worship in MY country peacefully in the manner of how I and MY family choose I credit our forefathers for this and if you wish now to put conditions on it (start doing what other countries do) then the extremists have already won the war. Never lose sight of the fact that it is our principles that the commies, nazis, religious fanatics, and dictators hate and it is our principles that attract people of all faiths to our country.
As I said, I support their legal right,. I don't agree with their actions
Did you read what I said? I said I disagreed with their actions. I support their legal right just as I support the legal right for Muslims to build their Mosque.
Did you read what I said????? I said I disagree with their actions.
The rest was generalizing - not specifically directed at your post.
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