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08-03-2010, 09:22 AM
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Re: Why Acts 2:38?
jfrog, it is like saying...
2Co 6:17 KJV Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
1Ti 4:16 KJV Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.
2Co 5:20 KJV Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
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08-03-2010, 09:24 AM
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Re: Why Acts 2:38?
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jfrog, it is like saying...
2Co 6:17 KJV Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
1Ti 4:16 KJV Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.
2Co 5:20 KJV Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
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08-03-2010, 09:55 AM
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Re: Why Acts 2:38?
Mizpeh,
Is this a true statement?
We are concluding that after we have followed Paul's instructions of repenting and being baptized, that if the gift [that was promised to us] is not received by speaking in tongues, we are still lost.
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08-03-2010, 10:34 AM
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Re: Why Acts 2:38?
You know I sometimes wonder if people think they need something more not to be saved, but to stay saved.
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08-03-2010, 10:38 AM
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Re: Why Acts 2:38?
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You know I sometimes wonder if people think they need something more not to be saved, but to stay saved.
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Staying saved does require something that we did not get at salvation, and that is UNDERSTANDING from plain old in-depth bible teaching.
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08-03-2010, 11:02 AM
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Re: Why Acts 2:38?
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It is a manner of speaking, and regards salvation nonetheless.
They must secure their own salvation. That does not mean we are saved by works, but means we must secure to ourselves the salvation God provided by grace through faith by doing our part in the covenant. Every covenant has a part for both parties to play. This manner of speaking simply focused on the listeners' part.
Would you claim it is not about salvation? Why?
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Just like circumcision in the OT.
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08-03-2010, 11:45 AM
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Re: Why Acts 2:38?
Awesome stuff Bro. Blume.
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08-03-2010, 12:01 PM
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Re: Why Acts 2:38?
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In the Apostolic letters, I find the apostles not reporting salvations in this way .... not once ... WHY NOT?????
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Some numbers mentioned in the book of Acts:
About 120 in attendace and all were filled....
3000 added to the church in a day....
The whole household....
Giving glory to God for His increase is awesome, giving out numbers for our own glory is not.
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08-03-2010, 12:05 PM
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Re: Why Acts 2:38?
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Some numbers mentioned in the book of Acts:
About 120 in attendace and all were filled....
3000 added to the church in a day....
The whole household....
Giving glory to God for His increase is awesome, giving out numbers for our own glory is not.
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It's a historical narrative, DWW that still doesn't focus inordinately on the "essentials" you value (#'s of HG and H20).... the apostles write about the goings on in other works they have visited .... and cover a plethora of topics and even mundane greetings and chit chat... yet I don't find them reporting salvations the way it's done today by some ....
Not part of their vernacular or value system ... but there is advice on having some alcohol to deal with illness. It just seems ODD and PECULIAR ... that they don't have the same impetus or central message... don't you think? Are you apostolic?
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08-03-2010, 12:13 PM
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Re: Why Acts 2:38?
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It's a historical narrative, DWW that still doesn't focus inordinately on the "essentials" you value (#'s of HG and H20).... the apostles write about the goings on in other works they have visited and cover a plethora of topics and even mundane greetings and chit chat... yet I don't find them reporting salvations the way it's done today by some ....
Not part of their vernacular or value system ...
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I agree that the Epistles don't give out a score card of #HG & #H2O as you put it.....
'Household' gives no numeric value and 'about 120' is not exact so I would guess they were more concerned with letting others know that something was happening and not necessarily the quantifying of it.......
PS. What are the "essentials" I value? 
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