Is it really revival?

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by Chan

The lost can't RE-VIVE (live again), they were never alive to begin with.

How do you figure....they may not have been in "our" church before, but every man is given a measure of faith. Somethings in peoples lives seem to strip that from them. i.e. deaths, adultry, etc. So their soul can be revived.

I have a friend right now that lost her younger sister in a car wreck. My friend is destroyed. She wishes she could have been the one to die in the wreck. You do not think God can revive that hurt life???? You missed it

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Chan

Yes, but some people don't care about that, they only care about using the term the way they've wrongly been using it over the decades. It is part of the ignorance and anti-intellectualism within much of Pentecostalism (whether oneness or trinity) that just takes a term, starts using it wrongly, and then it eventually becomes tradition to use it that way.

revival can lead to a lot of other things. Some of the best "revivals" I have been in started with the evangelist "cleaning house" so to speak...one the church was right and on fire then the soul winning flourished

[chaotic_resolve]

Chan, I agree with your point that "revival" is and has been misinterpreted.

I love the writings and messages of Charles Spurgeon. I ran across the link below a while back and it confirms some of what Chan is trying to say.

"What is a Revival?"

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by chaotic_resolve

Chan, I agree with your point that "revival" is and has been misinterpreted.

I love the writings and messages of Charles Spurgeon. I ran across the link below a while back and it confirms some of what Chan is trying to say.

"What is a Revival?"

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The reason I say that Revival can also revive the lost is the Bible says we were born into sin. Romans 8 says the body is dead because of sin, but the spirit is life because of righteousness. If the point of Revival is to "revive" the dead...Chaotic and Chan read Romans 8...it explains itself. It talks about living in the spirit and not in sin. This is the NLT for all of us "unsaved" ones. Hehe

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...r=8&version=51

J/K

[Sister Alvear]

Humility was a hall-mark of the Revival at Azusa Street and will be thusly with any revival we experience also.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

N-
The reason I say that Revival can also revive the lost is the Bible says we were born into sin. Romans 8 says the body is dead because of sin, but the spirit is life because of righteousness. If the point of Revival is to "revive" the dead...Chaotic and Chan read Romans 8...it explains itself. It talks about living in the spirit and not in sin. This is the NLT for all of us "unsaved" ones. Hehe

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...r=8&version=51

J/K

Revival only can affect the salvation of the lost IN THAT a revived church will be reaching out more and doing other things as pertaining to the kingdom of God. Etymologically the word revival, as stated before, comes from REVIVE. Now, you don't revive something that never had life to begin with. Thus you revive the church and or backsliders

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

How do you figure....they may not have been in "our" church before, but every man is given a measure of faith. Somethings in peoples lives seem to strip that from them. i.e. deaths, adultry, etc. So their soul can be revived.

I have a friend right now that lost her younger sister in a car wreck. My friend is destroyed. She wishes she could have been the one to die in the wreck. You do not think God can revive that hurt life???? You missed it

Again, to RE-VIVE, to bring back to life, necessitates that the person had once been alive and then died. Unbelievers were never spiritually alive. Unbelievers must undergo a spiritual birth.

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

N-
The reason I say that Revival can also revive the lost is the Bible says we were born into sin. Romans 8 says the body is dead because of sin, but the spirit is life because of righteousness. If the point of Revival is to "revive" the dead...Chaotic and Chan read Romans 8...it explains itself. It talks about living in the spirit and not in sin. This is the NLT for all of us "unsaved" ones. Hehe

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...r=8&version=51

J/K

Again, revival requires that the dead person had previously been alive. That is not the case with unbelievers: they have never been alive. They can't be revived (vived again, brought back to life) because they have never been alive. Unbelievers must undergo spiritual birth.

Originally Posted by Praxeas

revival can lead to a lot of other things. Some of the best "revivals" I have been in started with the evangelist "cleaning house" so to speak...one the church was right and on fire then the soul winning flourished

Which raises the question of whether it's the evangelist's job to do that or if it is really the prophet's job. The evangelist's job is to reach unsaved folks, not to reach the Church.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Gary Blacksher

It it really revival when the ones hosting it do not have the truth about salvation?

Can one really have a TRUE Revival without preaching the oneness of God and the Acts 2:38 plan of salvation?

Nope on both questions.