On The Errors of the Trinity by Michael Servetus

[kenj]

God speaking "in various ways", as in Heb 1:1 –to Servetus, these "various ways" aren't "persons" in the trinitarian sense but simply different manifestations (his word is "dipositions") of the one indivisible God who now appears to us in Christ.

It's of course better to read Servetus himself rather than take my interpretation of his work.

[Scott Hutchinson]

You can read the works of Servetus here.
http://www.servetus.org/en/michael-s.../writings1.htm

[kenj]

That has titles and a quote but little more.
You can read chapters 6 & 7 in their entirety at:
http://godglorified.com/errors_of_the_trinity.htm

If you read it, keep in mind that "impersonated" means more like "impersoned", in the sense of becoming a person, not imitating another one.

[kenj]

Here's a great line, among many like it in the book, from Chapter (or rather "Book") Six, about knowing God:

"But in the face of Jesus Christ he is known, as though God manifested himself to me without a veil, with that visible countenance with which he appeared to Moses face to face."

[achie43]

http://www.teleiosministries.com/pdf...y_servetus.pdf

http://servetustheevangelical.com/do...usFromBook.pdf

http://www.miguelservet.org/servetus/works.htm

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by achie43

http://www.teleiosministries.com/pdf...y_servetus.pdf

that first link contains a pdf of his Errors of the Trinity BUT the person who put it up online 'edited' it to replace 'Jesus' with 'Yahshua' and 'God' with 'Yahweh/elohim'.

I just do not understand why people feel the need to 'edit' other people's writings like that.

The 'editor' should be ashamed of himself. Intellectual dishonesty at best.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Esaias

that first link contains a pdf of his Errors of the Trinity BUT the person who put it up online 'edited' it to replace 'Jesus' with 'Yahshua' and 'God' with 'Yahweh/elohim'.

I just do not understand why people feel the need to 'edit' other people's writings like that.

The 'editor' should be ashamed of himself. Intellectual dishonesty at best.

I cannot stand that either.

[renee819]

Thank You Bro Gary, I have studied some of the same subjects, and what you wrote, goes right along with some of my Posts.

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Note: Many have rightly noted the powerful influence of Greek philosophy and the pagan "trinities" of the world in the development of the Trinity doctrine. The Hindu trinity of Brahma, Vishnu, & Shiva, for instance, during the early centuries of the Christian era (the Hindu trinity's origin is Babylon, where it was incorporated by the Jews into the Kabbalah, during their long stay in Babylon. The names of Brahma, Vishnu, & Shiva being transposed into Jewish names of the "sephiroths")

I have read, that every Pagan Religion has a Trinity of gods. A Father, Mother and Son. The Catholic Church, somehow substituted Mary for the Holy Ghost.

The Trinity definitely came from Babylon, then when the people were scattered, the same Religion, started in different areas of the world, (I haven't read much on Kabbelism---but I certainly see how that fits in. And then the Gnostic s and the false teaching on the Logos, thru philosophers that joined the Church, ending with Constantine making the baptism in the Trinity official.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by renee819

Thank You Bro Gary, I have studied some of the same subjects, and what you wrote, goes right along with some of my Posts.

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I have read, that every Pagan Religion has a Trinity of gods. A Father, Mother and Son. The Catholic Church, somehow substituted Mary for the Holy Ghost.

The Trinity definitely came from Babylon, then when the people were scattered, the same Religion, started in different areas of the world, (I haven't read much on Kabbelism---but I certainly see how that fits in. And then the Gnostic s and the false teaching on the Logos, thru philosophers that joined the Church, ending with Constantine making the baptism in the Trinity official.

So if you are correct, would you then believe that all Christian "believers" who embraced the Trinity died without salvation?

[Abiding Now]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

So if you are correct, would you then believe that all Christian "believers" who embraced the Trinity died without salvation?

Can a Christian embrace a false god and be saved?