Race has nothing to do with differences. The biggest difference between any of us is NOT race, it is culture. There is a "street" culture whether you're black or white. There are certain "church" cultures whether you're black or white. There are "business" cultures whether you're black or white. There is a political culture whether you're black or white. There is a "rich" culture whether you're black or white.
It is not color that separated us, it is culture. We unfortunately use color to accentuate those differences. Culture is FAR more powerful than color.
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Race has nothing to do with differences. The biggest difference between any of us is NOT race, it is culture. There is a "street" culture whether you're black or white. There are certain "church" cultures whether you're black or white. There are "business" cultures whether you're black or white. There is a political culture whether you're black or white. There is a "rich" culture whether you're black or white.
It is not color that separated us, it is culture. We unfortunately use color to accentuate those differences. Culture is FAR more powerful than color.
Good post.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
I live in an area where Indians are the majority, even over white people.
They wear hats and shirts that say 'Native Pride'.
I take no offense. I think it's cool that they are proud of their heritage.
But if I wear a hat or shirt with 'White Pride' stamped on it, I'd be shot for being a white supremacist.
Again, Native indians are a MINORITY. Hispanics are a MINORITY. Asians are a MINORITY.
Yes, it is true. If organizations are raised up that supports White Power as Dave Chappelle tauted in his show, then it would be racist and all kinds of heck would ensue.
But that is because wherever there is a minority there is a MAJORITY.
Who is that majority? Sing it along with me....white people.
Wherever there is a minority representation, it is of the utmost necessity that the minority employ efforts to preserve their culture and make sure that their voice is heard and that they are properly considered and represented in goverment and society. I learned this in civics class in high school.
We can all co exist in school, workplace, church, etc and yet still hold to our cultures and racial identities. I say it is necessary to do so.
Lets look at Hispanics. When they are together they speak their language to each other. They cook dishes that are representative of their culture. They have holidays and festivities that celebrate them exclusively.
Yet, when they come into mainstream America, idealistically, they speak the American native language, they assimilate into American culture and do well.
If this is acceptable and celebrated in Hispanic culture, why is it feared and looked down upon in African American culture??????
What are we afraid of?
Whites are the majority not for long granted, but are so now. So they dont need organizations promoting or empowering them because they are already empowered and promoted the day they are born. Yes, white people do have an advantage over all others in this country BECAUSE they are the majority.
They have the best schools. They earn more than Blacks, no matter how educated a black person is. The White male being the highest earner around.
They still live in the best neighborhoods. They have the biggest religious organizations in the country. In which they are on the boards, trustees and leadership.
They have the money. It is true. I know some will say what I say is racist. It is not meant to be...it is fact.
I learned this in civics class too.
So minorities of all kinds have to go extra strides and thrive harder to be represented properly and to make it. That is a fact.
So to answer all your questions, white people have an advantage over miniorities thus they do NOT need special representation, (I am going there!) reparations or organizations to empower them.
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Lets look at Hispanics. When they are together they speak their language to each other. They cook dishes that are representative of their culture. They have holidays and festivities that celebrate them exclusively.
Yet, when they come into mainstream America, idealistically, they speak the American native language, they assimilate into American culture and do well.
If this is acceptable and celebrated in Hispanic culture, why is it feared and looked down upon in African American culture??????
GBG, do you really believe that anyone wants African Americans to stop cooking traditional meals, celebrate holidays and festivities, and creating the great music that we all know and love?
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Whites are the majority not for long granted, but are so now. So they dont need organizations promoting or empowering them because they are already empowered and promoted the day they are born. Yes, white people do have an advantage over all others in this country BECAUSE they are the majority.
So since black Africans are the clear majority in Africa, do you oppose white people in Africa having exclusively white organizations, or other organizations that "empower" white people in that continent?
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
Black people have a history and a culture that is uniquely our own. No other race or culture in THIS country was enslaved, tortured, imprisoned, lynched, families torn apart...all the while my ancestors helped build this country as we know it today.
Hispanics werent slaves. Asians weren slaves. Indians, they had this land stolen from them and some of them murdered, but as far as I know they werent slaves either. All the immigrants who migrate to America now, they havent been enslaved.
Yet we applaud those who come to this country and 'make it.' Well, a great part of that is due to the fact that they were sold the American dream...whereas when my ancestors were drug off the boats in chains after spending weeks or even months in the dungeons of boats that stole them, kidnapped them from their motherland.....
They werent sold a dream, but a nightmare!
I saw ths website called 'the African American Holocast.' I had never heard it called that...but that is what it was.
So your arguments comparing the trek of African Americans in this country to other minorities is ludicrous and preposterous.
There is a big, BIG difference between coming here of your own volition hoping and praying for a better life and being kidnapped, tortured, killed, etc. and made to serve a man who doesn't respect you or your women or children.
I wanna know how a hispanic would have handled seeing his wife raped and being impregnated by a white man...and there is nothing he could do about it. Then only to learn the woman you love is having that jackal's baby????
How willing would he be to serve this country and help masser with his empire then????
THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE!
No, I wont forget my heritage. I can't. It is a part of who I am. It helps me to understand why the effects of slavery is still being felt by EVERY black person in this country now in 2008.
Even if it makes you feel uncomfortable. Sorry...
I have said it before and I will say it again...
When the church repents of her racism, then the country will follow suit....
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GBG, do you really believe that anyone wants African Americans to stop cooking traditional meals, celebrate holidays and festivities, and creating the great music that we all know and love?
So since black Africans are the clear majority in Africa, do you oppose white people in Africa having exclusively white organizations, or other organizations that "empower" white people in that continent?
No, Abby, I dont believe that. Especially here in N.O. cuz we be slammin in the kitchen! ; -)
As to your question of White Africans having exculsively white org in Africa, I say no, as long as those org are not KKK like. Meaning, they are not trying to kill Black Africans or discriminate against them. Or oppressing them.
If said White org are set up and thrive on violence and discrimination of any kids against Black Africans then I would have to say HECK NO< THEY GOTTA GO!!!!!!
Especially if the whites there are losing their culture or identities because they are the minority.
But we both know chances are that such a org in Africa, especially in South Africa, would be about discriminating against Black Africans...
Remember what happen to Nelson Mandela????
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Going up in the Spirit Realm....
Black people have a history and a culture that is uniquely our own. No other race or culture in THIS country was enslaved, tortured, imprisoned, lynched, families torn apart...all the while my ancestors helped build this country as we know it today.
Hispanics werent slaves. Asians weren slaves. Indians, they had this land stolen from them and some of them murdered, but as far as I know they werent slaves either. All the immigrants who migrate to America now, they havent benn enslaved.
First of all, many Indians WERE enslaved. Secondly, many of them weren't enslaved--because they were KILLED instead.
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Yet we applaud those who come to this country and 'make it.' Well, a great part of that is due to the fact that they were sold the American dream...whereas when my ancestors were drug off the boats in chains after spending weeks or even months in the dungeons of boats that stole them, kidnapped them from their motherland.....
They werent sold a dream, but a nightmare!
I saw ths website called 'the African American Holocast.' I had never heard it called that...but that is what it was.
So your arguments comparing the trek of African Americans in this country to other minorities is ludicrous and preposterous.
I am not denying that African Americans suffered, and suffered terribly. However, I am shocked at your continued denial of the suffering of other minorities at the hands of early Americans and Europeans. You need to read some history books.
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There is a big, BIG difference between coming here of your own volition hoping and praying for a better life and being kidnapped, tortured, killed, etc. and made to serve a man who doesn't respect you or your women or children.
I wanna know how a hispanic would have handled seeing his wife raped and being impregnated by a white man...and there is nothing he could do about it. Then only to learn the woman you love is having that jackal's baby????
How willing would he be to serve this country and help masser with his empire then????
THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE!
No, I wont forget my heritage. I can't. It is a part of who I am. It helps me to understand why the effects of slavery is still being felt by EVERY black person in this country now in 2008.
Even if it makes you feel uncomfortable. Sorry...
I have said it before and I will say it again...
When the church repents of her racism, then the country will follow suit....
Keep saying it GBG, but your statements aren't going to make sense until you actually approach this topic calmly and logically. Right now it's just grandstanding.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
No, Abby, I dont believe that. Especially here in N.O. cuz we be slammin in the kitchen! ; -)
As to your question of White Africans having exculsively white org in Africa, I say no, as long as those org are not KKK like. Meaning, they are not trying to kill Black Africans or discriminate against them. Or oppressing them.
If said White org are set up and thrive on violence and discrimination of any kids against Black Africans then I would have to say HECK NO< THEY GOTTA GO!!!!!!
Especially if the whites there are losing their culture or identities because they are the minority.
But we both know chances are that such a org in Africa, especially in South Africa, would be about discriminating against Black Africans...
Oh, I will readily agree with you there. Racism is way more prevalent and volatile (and violent) in Africa than it is here.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
Again, Native indians are a MINORITY. Hispanics are a MINORITY. Asians are a MINORITY.
Yes, it is true. If organizations are raised up that supports White Power as Dave Chappelle tauted in his show, then it would be racist and all kinds of heck would ensue.
But that is because wherever there is a minority there is a MAJORITY.
Who is that majority? Sing it along with me....white people.
Wherever there is a minority representation, it is of the utmost necessity that the minority employ efforts to preserve their culture and make sure that their voice is heard and that they are properly considered and represented in goverment and society. I learned this in civics class in high school.
We can all co exist in school, workplace, church, etc and yet still hold to our cultures and racial identities. I say it is necessary to do so.
Lets look at Hispanics. When they are together they speak their language to each other. They cook dishes that are representative of their culture. They have holidays and festivities that celebrate them exclusively.
Yet, when they come into mainstream America, idealistically, they speak the American native language, they assimilate into American culture and do well.
If this is acceptable and celebrated in Hispanic culture, why is it feared and looked down upon in African American culture??????
What are we afraid of?
Whites are the majority not for long granted, but are so now. So they dont need organizations promoting or empowering them because they are already empowered and promoted the day they are born. Yes, white people do have an advantage over all others in this country BECAUSE they are the majority.
They have the best schools. They earn more than Blacks, no matter how educated a black person is. The White male being the highest earner around.
They still live in the best neighborhoods. They have the biggest religious organizations in the country. In which they are on the boards, trustees and leadership.
They have the money. It is true. I know some will say what I say is racist. It is not meant to be...it is fact.
I learned this in civics class too.
So minorities of all kinds have to go extra strides and thrive harder to be represented properly and to make it. That is a fact.
So to answer all your questions, white people have an advantage over miniorities thus they do NOT need special representation, (I am going there!) reparations or organizations to empower them.
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