+++Very, Very Odd...Have you noticed this?+++

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Turbid Bliss

The Tulsa group is obviously not yet a rainbow coalition. Their purpose is to protect the white American holiness standards culture.

I would bet the farm that they didn't investigate trying to send out advertisements and make phone calls to all the memberships of the PAW or other ethnic Apostolic organizations. After all, I'm sure they have some anti-TV folks too!

These are very interesting and provoking thoughts - I admit!

[Apprehended]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

You're kidding, right?

You don't think saying "i don't give a ---- " is inappropriate language for a Christian?

What on earth are you thinking about anyway. Do you see the word as a reference to something indecent? NOWAY. Where are people's minds nowadays.

Do people continually think VULGARLY? Are minds gone to to the point that they equate almost every word we use as something dirty and ugly.

Sorry, but I am not of that class of thinkers. I'm just not there.

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by Apprehended

What on earth are you thinking about anyway. Do you see the word as a reference to something indecent? NOWAY. Where are people's minds nowadays.

Do people continually think VULGARLY? Are minds gone to to the point that they equate almost every word we use as something dirty and ugly.

Sorry, but I am not of that class of thinkers. I'm just not there.

Were you never smacked upside the head for using a "by word"? That is not exactly cussin but very close to it.

[lovinglife]

Originally Posted by Discerner

haha, it is really to see how incensed people get.

I get amazed at how these men are lifted to such a high pedastal and no one can question there motives or ideas. The fact of the matter is they are leading a split of the UPCI (if you can call a couple hundred preachers [max] a split. WOnder what they would do if a member(s) of their church was organizing this on the local level?

so since you are so sure that these men are racist and since you have met and built a relationship with as well as gained actual situations with each one of them to back up such statements as to call them a racist i am happy to hear it since these men are men of such low integrity (mass amount of sarcasm).....so all of these words are said against people with no proof or anything.........i would put that list of preachers integrity up against any..............

[Apprehended]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Oh BTW, not sure if another Admin got to this, but this is not acceptable. We don't cuss even indirectly or inuendos.

Sorry...

I reject the idea of it being cussing. There was no cuss word either directly or by an inuendo.

I reject the very idea. My mind is not in the gutter in the area of whatever YOU are thinking about. Whatever it is, I have no idea...neither do I WANT an idea. So, if someone thinks that it a CUSS word, just don't tell me. I'd rather remain in my inocence.

But, since some of you people think that the word FLIP is a cuss word, I will TRY to refrain from using it in the future. I just hope no one ever starts a thread in refrence to the t.v. program, "FLIP that house."

[The Dean]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

The main part I was agreeing with is:



Are there currently any of other races than white on the UPC General Board?

My main answer to this is, SO WHAT?? I think that AL (Thoughts by T) Sharpton here is trying to play some race card in order to discredit these men, and I think it stinks.

And I agree with you on this. Wholeheartedly.

P.S.: Yes, there are men of color on the General Board.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Apprehended

Sorry...

I reject the idea of it being cussing. There was no cuss word either directly or by an inuendo.

I reject the very idea. My mind is not in the gutter in the area of whatever YOU are thinking about. Whatever it is, I have no idea...neither do I WANT an idea. So, if someone thinks that it a CUSS word, just don't tell me. I'd rather remain in my inocence.

But, since some of you people think that the word FLIP is a cuss word, I will TRY to refrain from using it in the future. I just hope no one ever starts a thread in refrence to the t.v. program, "FLIP that house."

Apprehended, did you originally post "I don't give a ****", or did you spell it out, "I don't give a flip?"

I'm only asking because...since "flip" isn't that bad of a word (albeit a byword or slang when used in this context), why would you feel the need to asterisk it?

If a word is bad enough to put it in asterisks, then readers will [reasonably] assume that it is of that nature, and fill in the blanks with a true curse word, intentionally or not. Please do not try to pretend such innocence that you are unaware of other 4-letter words that could easily fill in that blank.

If you did not originally asterisk the word, and spelled it out, innocently assuming that it was pure enough to use in this forum, then disregard my comments.

OMG. For all of you overeacters out there, I never once called anybody a racist. This was not the intent of the thread when it started. I was simply bringing up the question of absurdity of this whole thing. And "apprehended", it seems as if you are never wrong and always try to defend yourself...theres no point in arguing with someone who refuses to look at the big picture.

I was simply trying to bring out the point of "where is the balance in this whole thing? Is this something they just threw together? My goodness, their foreign missions board has no one that speaks another language, no one that actually can relate to being a foreign missionary, and how absurd is that? Maybe some have been over to other countrys and done some stuff over on other parts of the world, but my goodness how are they planning on starting new churches across seas? Has this whole thing really been thought out at all? I could go on and on about the whole absurdity of it all, but what is the point? To ensure balance, this should have been looked at and thought out more way than it has. I did not point fingers at any person or call anybody a racist. But I could have clarified my point better. My apologies. I will make sure in the future.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Thoughts by T

OMG. For all of you overeacters out there, I never once called anybody a racist. This was not the intent of the thread when it started. I was simply bringing up the question of absurdity of this whole thing. And "apprehended", it seems as if you are never wrong and always try to defend yourself...theres no point in arguing with someone who refuses to look at the big picture.

You may not have, but a couple of others have come near it, if not actually said so. Implications and innuendos DO matter.

Just out of curiosity...what exactly is odd about an all-Caucasian board? Or rather, what is odd about it, that is any more odd than the all African-American leadership of the P.A.W., for instance?

Aren't you assuming that there is no one who speaks a second language? Or do you know that for a fact? And since when does one have to be something other than American-American to be an effective missionary?

If your question is only to say, "Where is the balance?", then why address only the appearance that there isn't a diversity of races and cultures? (You do realize that you are making assumptions based on the fact that these men have white skin, right?) I have five different ethnicities/cultures in my recent ancestry, yet I am as fair-skinned as they come.

Also, for an interesting sidenote, I've preached for (I think) 5 of the 6 Coordinators of the Tulsa meeting and all of them have racially diverse congregations. I also think those same Churches (can't say about the other) all have non-whites in leadership positions.

At least two of them are probably 1/3 to 1/2 non-whites.

I'm sorry, folks... I just can't see a reason for this line of thought outside of casting a negative light on those involved in Tulsa.