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Old 11-19-2007, 10:15 AM
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Bro. Booker is VERY good at stirring up emotion. (i know most preachers are)
This reminds me of when he got up at Salt Lake City three years ago with his compelling reason why we needed to vote against the TV resolution then...

i can't remeber the story he used, something about a medium......anyhow he totally took the story out of context to fit what he was trying to say and it stirred up emotion, but it was out of context.

To compare the TV vote to 9/11?????????????? that's drama or JFK being shot? that's little over-the-top for me.
This just shows the extent some "men of God" will go to be seen as right. Quite sad and disgusting IMO.
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Bro. Booker is VERY good at stirring up emotion. (i know most preachers are)
This reminds me of when he got up at Salt Lake City three years ago with his compelling reason why we needed to vote against the TV resolution then...

i can't remeber the story he used, something about a medium......anyhow he totally took the story out of context to fit what he was trying to say and it stirred up emotion, but it was out of context.

To compare the TV vote to 9/11?????????????? that's drama or JFK being shot? that's little over-the-top for me.


Yea! comparing the day TV passed to the Day JFK got shot- wow


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Old 11-19-2007, 10:15 AM
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Did you Hear about Larry Booker's Latest controversial message???????

here are bits and pieces (quotes) taken from it.


give your opinion, good or bad so that we can discuss it.



Booker told his church this past sunday night about how the tv vote went - said the organization took a turn towards destruction. He also said he was suprised at how many ministers nationwide are not happy.


Booker went on to say that the day of the vote was such an emotional day of sadness just like when JFK was shot and when the towers were hit on 9/11. He got the same feeling when the vote passed as on 9/11.


It is interesting to note that the original vote against tv took place in Tulsa in 1955 - maybe that's why they picked Tulsa as the place to form the new organization - to make a statement?


Also, Tommy Craft went to see Ken Phillips before the vote and apparently Wanda Phillips pleaded with Tommy Craft saying "don't let the movement (upc) go the way we did in regards to television. TV will steal everything from you"

crying and screaming Booker said in his message "me and and many other good men refuse to go that route - we will stand for holiness"


gave an example of how the PAW lost its standards and holiness.


said he would still fellowship his close (ulta-con) friends that stay in the upc
His statements come from his belief that the UPCI is a moving force in the world.

He will find once out after leaving the organization... (for Liberal or Con reasons) that he was in a very narrow and sheltered world.



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You know, I am just sitting here this morning reflecting on our day yesterday at the church I pastor... As a pastor I feel pretty good today after baptising a brand new family of 5 yesteday in Jesus name... I also had a family come back to our church after leaving a few months ago... I was also thinking how my saints might feel this morning after reflecting on yesterday... They wrapped their collective arms around a new family and an old one that returned... The father of the new family was one who worked with a few of the guys in our church and their witness is what brought the new family in... I believe after hearing a message on the goodness of God at this Thanksgiving time and seeing new and old families added to the kingdom, our saints have a very positive start to their week..

I say that because if the original post is true, some saints in LB's church after this sermon are not focused on witnessing, but deciding who they can now fellowship and who they can't... Some are probably sitting back and asking themselves... "Is this guy serious? I might need to rethink where I go to church."

Thad, my thoughts about his sermon? IMO is might have been a sermon, but not the gospel!!

BTW, I know the Phillips well and I don't believe for one minute Wanda said that... Like a lot of those guys do, they might have read that from the SAV version... (The Slightly Altered Version)
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Bro. Booker is VERY good at stirring up emotion. (i know most preachers are)
This reminds me of when he got up at Salt Lake City three years ago with his compelling reason why we needed to vote against the TV resolution then...

i can't remeber the story he used, something about a medium......anyhow he totally took the story out of context to fit what he was trying to say and it stirred up emotion, but it was out of context.

To compare the TV vote to 9/11?????????????? that's drama or JFK being shot? that's little over-the-top for me.
His medium story sounds like his non-biblical argument against organized sports ... I believe in one of his books ... when he could not give a biblical reason ... he simply could relate a dream about sports and his kids ... and how God showed him that they would be lost if they got involved.

It's pandering and manipulation, IMO.
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His statements come from his belief that the UPCI is a moving force in the world.

He will find once out the organization for Liberal or Con reasons that his was in a very narrow and sheltered world.



Is he living under a ROCK? When I mention UPC to people most have NEVER heard of it.
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BTW, I know the Phillips well and I don't believe for one minute Wanda said that... Like a lot of those guys do, they might have read that from the SAV version... (The Slightly Altered Version)
I would pay money to the person who could verify the veracity of the alleged WP quote w/ Wanda herself.
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You know, I am just sitting here this morning reflecting on our day yesterday at the church I pastor... As a pastor I feel pretty good today after baptising a brand new family of 5 yesteday in Jesus name... I also had a family come back to our church after leaving a few months ago... I was also thinking how my saints might feel this morning after reflecting on yesterday... They wrapped their collective arms around a new family and an old one that returned... The father of the new family was one who worked with a few of the guys in our church and their witness is what brought the new family in... I believe after hearing a message on the goodness of God at this Thanksgiving time and seeing new and old families added to the kingdom, our saints have a very positive start to their week..

I say that because if the original post is true, some saints in LB's church after this sermon are not focused on witnessing, but deciding who they can now fellowship and who they can't... Some are probably sitting back and asking themselves... "Is this guy serious? I might need to rethink where I go to church."

Thad, my thoughts about his sermon? IMO is might have been a sermon, but not the gospel!!

BTW, I know the Phillips well and I don't believe for one minute Wanda said that... Like a lot of those guys do, they might have read that from the SAV version... (The Slightly Altered Version)

Great post!
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His statements come from his belief that the UPCI is a moving force in the world.

He will find once out the organization for Liberal or Con reasons that his was in a very narrow and sheltered world.


Since jumping ship a few months ago, I find that the great respect that my former church had in the community was not so great afterall. People I have known for years come up to me and say "I've always respected your family but that church was just offensive" or "I never felt I could get holy enough to visit your church." It is amazing how skewed your perspective is when you are on the ship.
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HEY!! speaking or Oregon, I hear there is quite a shaking going on up there!!!!

11 churches leving last i heard ??????? going with the Tulsa group!!!!!!
I posted some of this somewhere in TT.

PM me and tell me who all it it...I'm so curious!
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