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What happened to the days where there was consequences to your actions? Now it's all lovey dovey forgive forgive googly shmoogly gospel????? There are consequences for sin, remember that word???SIIIIIIINNN, sheesh!
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08-13-2007, 08:29 PM
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Elder Epley is a well respected Pastor and I respect how he draws his lines.
I don't Pastor and if I did I would proably draw my lines differently but as a Christian minister, the Elder has my respect.
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08-13-2007, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Berkeley
I have heard about pastors who refuse to allow the couple to marry in the sanctuary. They are allowed to have a ceremony outside on the church grounds or in the church hall, but NOT in the sanctuary. This is ridiculous. Even if it was a 'church' couple that slipped up, if they have repented -they are forgiven. Who are you or I to hold their transgression against them? It's a slap in the face to say "God forgave you, but we didn't.. so you must get married outside of the sanctuary.." If it were up to some, they'd stitch a scarlet letter into the wedding garments...
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They are forgiven I personally will perform the ceremony in the church however I think a couple who keeps themselves clean deserves a little honor in this perverse world. A white dress does just that and I mention they have kept themselves every young person does not commit fornication.
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08-13-2007, 08:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Berkeley
I have heard about pastors who refuse to allow the couple to marry in the sanctuary. They are allowed to have a ceremony outside on the church grounds or in the church hall, but NOT in the sanctuary. This is ridiculous. Even if it was a 'church' couple that slipped up, if they have repented -they are forgiven. Who are you or I to hold their transgression against them? It's a slap in the face to say "God forgave you, but we didn't.. so you must get married outside of the sanctuary.." If it were up to some, they'd stitch a scarlet letter into the wedding garments...
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EGG_ZACTLY...you withold forgivness and shall be withheld from you.
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08-13-2007, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Monkeyman
What happened to the days where there was consequences to your actions? Now it's all lovey dovey forgive forgive googly shmoogly gospel????? There are consequences for sin, remember that word???SIIIIIIINNN, sheesh!
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Cast the first stone.!!!
Yes, there are consequences. Most of them are spiritual. Others, you can see the result of your actions with the 'naked' eye.
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08-13-2007, 08:30 PM
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You can go to heaven with a beard but a fornicator cannot go to heaven except he/she repents.
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That is true...but by getting married and making their union "godly", I think that is a step in the right direction...and the ceremony itself should simply be focused on the seriousness of their commitment--not a time to display all their past failures!
When I think of the young people in our church...if one of them failed in this area, I can't imagine desiring to humiliate them in some way...nor do I see the need to humiliate them so the virginal brides can look even more pristine by comparison.
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08-13-2007, 08:30 PM
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and how would we really know if they repented or if they cried because they got caught?
We do have guidelines we go by but I was just wondering what stateside people teach about purity...
I have watched in over 40 years of ministry those that kept themselves pure before marriage seemed to have little trouble along those lines after marriage. Not 100 % of the time but as a rule in dealing with thousands of people over the years.
I want to help those I teach not only today but in the years to come.
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08-13-2007, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Berkeley
Cast the first stone.!!!
Yes, there are consequences. Most of them are spiritual. Others, you can see the result of your actions with the 'naked' eye.
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A different colored dress ain't no stone bro. That would be a public hailing of rocks...this is not that. Just a statement to others on the purity of a virgin marriage...
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08-13-2007, 08:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Epley
They are forgiven I personally will perform the ceremony in the church however I think a couple who keeps themselves clean deserves a little honor in this perverse world. A white dress does just that and I mention they have kept themselves every young person does not commit fornication.
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So how do the men signify their purity? And how do the impure ones share the shame with their brides?
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"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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08-13-2007, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by freeatlast
EGG_ZACTLY...you withold forgivness and shall be withheld from you.
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Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little.
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