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Old 10-28-2015, 02:19 PM
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You are arrogant. Wow. Grow up.... spiritually, that is.
So, you are trying to say I am arrogant because there are no authentic Apostles today? Lol.

Show your maturity, and come up with the names and locations of any authentic Apostles you think are on Earth today. Merely sharing your speculative notions about them and trying to cite some Scripture about First Century Apostles is indeed immature and arrogant of yourself.

If you cannot deliver the goods, do not waste our time babbling about them. Understand? Is it "spiritual" of you to resort to weak little ad hominems when I catch you in foolish error? Eh?

Speak up like a Real Man of God, rather than like a pewsitter.
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Old 10-28-2015, 02:25 PM
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I already noted this, but Jesus said satan cannot cast out satan. Satan and his agenst do NOT cast out devils. When Jesus spoke to those whom he never knew, acknowledging they cast out devils, etc., he was not saying satan did those things. He was saying taht's not the ticket to glory. Everyone needs to do those things, and it was not the devil doing them in those people. It was God's actual power. They called Jesus Lord, and no one can do that unless the Holy Ghost revealed it (1 Cor 12:3). So, it was not the devil using them, but it was their lack of doing MORE than just wonders. Jesus said those who hear his word and DO IT are the ones on the rock, not miracle workers. And that coincides with His words saying he KNOWS HIS SHEEP, and His sheep HEAR HIS VOICE and follow Him. Hearing and following means hearing and doing.

You're only here to demean everyone else on the forum because you think they're lower than yourself.

God's eternal purpose cannot be fulfilled with such self life existing in people. That's why the devil tempted the woman to put the knowledge of good and evil in herself instead of life, because it would vaunt herself up in her own eyes. That hinders the eternal purpose of God in creating us so that His LIFE lives out through us.

Paul summed up the eternal purpose here:
Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
He is located inside us TO LIVE THROUGH US.

These are not conjectures, but God's word.

First you arrogantly ask what have I done by way of Christ's words that said the things He did shall we do. So, I list some. Then you change your challenge and tell me that satan can do things, showing you are unaware that satan cannot cast out satan.

Seems you look to demean people rather than encourage a healthy conversation.

So, again, please leave the discussion with your arrogant criticism.
If you are crucified with Christ, why do you speak such divergent, unfocused, and worthless speculation?

Why do you violate Proverbs 10:19, "In the multitude of words there wanteth not sin; but he that refrains his lips is wise?" Why do you make so many long winded posts, as if you have some authority in here? Does presumptuous talk, like yours, relate to tonnage?
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Old 10-28-2015, 06:11 PM
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If you are crucified with Christ, why do you speak such divergent, unfocused, and worthless speculation?
You're a liar. You would not recognize truth from speculation if it slammed into your face. You're so full of self that you cannot witness truth.

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Why do you violate Proverbs 10:19, "In the multitude of words there wanteth not sin; but he that refrains his lips is wise?" Why do you make so many long winded posts, as if you have some authority in here? Does presumptuous talk, like yours, relate to tonnage?
Why don't you deny yourself and take up your cross? This is not a joke. It's not a game room, and a gathering for lies.
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Old 10-28-2015, 06:16 PM
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So, you are trying to say I am arrogant because there are no authentic Apostles today? Lol.
No. If you could read anything at all, you would know I attributed your arrogance to challenging me about my acts for the Lord after writing what i did about God's eternal purpose, expecting to learn of none that I accomplished in His name. And when I listed some in response, you changed your challenge to another direction, nullifying the value of the very accomplishments in the Lord you initially asked. All in order to someone who exalt yourself by self-patting your own back.

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Show your maturity, and come up with the names and locations of any authentic Apostles you think are on Earth today.
Show your maturity and stop trying o exalt yourself above every writer of any post you think you can prove yourself to be the big frog in another little pond.

And learn this:

1 Corinthians 12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

As long as there is a church there will be apostles. They're SET IN THE CHURCH. The ministry is cemented there.

Ephesians 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

As much as there are teachers and pastors, there will always be apostles in the same context, exalted one.

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Merely sharing your speculative notions about them and trying to cite some Scripture about First Century Apostles is indeed immature and arrogant of yourself.

If you cannot deliver the goods, do not waste our time babbling about them. Understand? Is it "spiritual" of you to resort to weak little ad hominems when I catch you in foolish error? Eh?

Speak up like a Real Man of God, rather than like a pewsitter.
Grow up and come back when you can talk without vomiting out your self-life all over the readers here, child.
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You're a liar. You would not recognize truth from speculation if it slammed into your face. You're so full of self that you cannot witness truth.



Why don't you deny yourself and take up your cross? This is not a joke. It's not a game room, and a gathering for lies.
Being "Pentecostal" is a huge lie. No "Pentecostal" can replicate any of the features of The Day of Pentecost in Acts 2. If "Pentecostals" cannot even truthfully name themselves, then how false are their doctrines, preachings, promotions, and presentation of The Holy Spirit?

Lol. How much pizza and mashed potatoes do you eat?
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Being "Pentecostal" is a huge lie. No "Pentecostal" can replicate any of the features of The Day of Pentecost in Acts 2. If "Pentecostals" cannot even truthfully name themselves, then how false are their doctrines, preachings, promotions, and presentation of The Holy Spirit?

Lol. How much pizza and mashed potatoes do you eat?
Grow up.
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Grow up.
You mean I should not "grow out" as shown in your icon? Do you ever give thought to what you shall eat on the morrow ... ?

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Grow up.
I try to be tolerant of people, but I am going to ignore this person. Their isn't anything that can be said that will help. By giving dialogue to this person we are just giving them what they are here for. I consider this recent mocking of tongues as blasphemous.
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I try to be tolerant of people, but I am going to ignore this person. Their isn't anything that can be said that will help. By giving dialogue to this person we are just giving them what they are here for. I consider this recent mocking of tongues as blasphemous.
Yes, one sick puppy.

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Now that the nonsense here recently has been ignored, let's carry on.

The word is God. And it's incorruptible seed. Not only were we born again of that incorruptible seed, but it grows and manifests Christ through our lives. This is the eternal purpose of God. To do things in this physical world that can only be done by the power of the Holy Ghost. ANYTHING, so long as it is by the power of the Spirit, is manifesting his glory. And it is His eternal purpose.

He created the physical realm and universe while He is not physical, Himself. He manifested in flesh as Son of God and continues to manifest in OUR flesh so Christ lives through US.

I once saw someone ask what would happen if God answered all our prayers. Would the world be different or our own little worlds?
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