I don't know but they did and said some scary things and destroyed 2 good churches. One preached a message that nearly seemed blasphemy to me named "Bigots" called John the Baptist & Nehemiah & Ezra bigots. I would not be in their shoes for all the money in this world. But I do hope God has mercy on them. Who can tell if he will?
Well I would only go back if, The particular UPC could tolerate my stance on "Not observing" dress and hair standards.
I have been greatly, greatly blessed since I have left.
COOP really now, what standards are you referring to Personally?
are you talking about for your wife or yourself?? There's not much for us Men to observe if you really think about it
how can you say you've been so greatly blessed yet you have not been able to find a church
I was sinking deep in sin, far from the peaceful shore.
Very deeply stained within, sinking to rise no more;
But the Master of the sea heard my despairing cry,
From the waters lifted me, now safe am I.
Chorus
Love lifted me! (even me)
Love lifted me! (even me)
When nothing else could help,
Love lifted me!
All my heart to Him I'll give, ever to Him I'll cling,
In His blessed presence live, ever His praises sing.
Love so mighty and so true merits my soul's best songs;
Faithful, loving service, too, to Him belongs.
Chorus
Love lifted me! (even me)
Love lifted me! (even me)
When nothing else could help,
Love lifted me!
Souls in danger, look above, Jesus completely saves;
He will lift you by His love, out of the angry waves.
He's the Master of the sea, billows His will obey;
He your Saviour wants to be -
BE SAVED TODAY!
Chorus
Love lifted me! (even me)
Love lifted me! (even me)
When nothing else could help,
Love lifted me!
Go back? I really dont have anything to go back to. I was raised in a moderate UPCI church and I still attend a moderate UPCI church. I will say that I wish things were slightly more conservitive on some issues. Other issues I think all is good....
__________________ If I do something stupid blame the Lortab!
Do those of you that have left the more strict side of Pentecost for a life of enlightenment ever think of going back to what you once were? Do you ever make a comparison and feel that you were more blessed back in your ultr con days? Just thought I'd throw this out for discussion.
Not a lot to go back to, I'm the same person I was before I joined, and how I leave now today. The only thing that has change is I no longer believe in the traditions of man as salvation, nor do I believe they are the only ones with this so-called truth~. To go back would be like the dog spoke of in the bible!
I don't know but they did and said some scary things and destroyed 2 good churches. One preached a message that nearly seemed blasphemy to me named "Bigots" called John the Baptist & Nehemiah & Ezra bigots. I would not be in their shoes for all the money in this world. But I do hope God has mercy on them. Who can tell if he will?
A bigot is someone who can't tolerate any other opinions but their own.
I was sinking deep in sin, far from the peaceful shore.
Very deeply stained within, sinking to rise no more;
But the Master of the sea heard my despairing cry,
From the waters lifted me, now safe am I.
Chorus
Love lifted me! (even me)
Love lifted me! (even me)
When nothing else could help,
Love lifted me!
All my heart to Him I'll give, ever to Him I'll cling,
In His blessed presence live, ever His praises sing.
Love so mighty and so true merits my soul's best songs;
Faithful, loving service, too, to Him belongs.
Chorus
Love lifted me! (even me)
Love lifted me! (even me)
When nothing else could help,
Love lifted me!
Souls in danger, look above, Jesus completely saves;
He will lift you by His love, out of the angry waves.
He's the Master of the sea, billows His will obey;
He your Saviour wants to be -
BE SAVED TODAY!
Chorus
Love lifted me! (even me)
Love lifted me! (even me)
When nothing else could help,
Love lifted me!
I was sinking deep in sin, far from the peaceful shore.
Very deeply stained within, sinking to rise no more;
But the Master of the sea heard my despairing cry,
From the waters lifted me, now safe am I.
Chorus
Love lifted me! (even me)
Love lifted me! (even me)
When nothing else could help,
Love lifted me!
All my heart to Him I'll give, ever to Him I'll cling,
In His blessed presence live, ever His praises sing.
Love so mighty and so true merits my soul's best songs;
Faithful, loving service, too, to Him belongs.
Chorus
Love lifted me! (even me)
Love lifted me! (even me)
When nothing else could help,
Love lifted me!
Souls in danger, look above, Jesus completely saves;
He will lift you by His love, out of the angry waves.
He's the Master of the sea, billows His will obey;
He your Saviour wants to be -
BE SAVED TODAY!
Chorus
Love lifted me! (even me)
Love lifted me! (even me)
When nothing else could help,
Love lifted me!
There is a huge difference between a saint in a church leaving and returning, and a pastor turning his back on truth and taking an entire church with him....
As Brother E outlined it, I dont think those truths ended up being about standards....
I am with Brother E, I hope God shows great mercy.
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