Oh yeah, and don't forget - the Publicans and sinners.......
Wait - let me take a stab at it.......it's ok to fellowship with them as long as you have a chance to convert them, but if you see that's not going to happen, you run the other way?
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Oh yeah, and don't forget - the Publicans and sinners.......
Wait - let me take a stab at it.......it's ok to fellowship with them as long as you have a chance to convert them, but if you see that's not going to happen, you run the other way?
LOL.
MP knows what the word "Fellowship" means in the context that Elder Epley used it but for others who think that means having dinner with someone let me elucidate.
“Fellowship” means to “Extend the Right Hand of Fellowship”. In other words, to stamp that person with official approval and as a pastor point to them as an example for the flock you serve.
Fellowship does not mean, dine with. Meet upon occasion. Hug when you see them and ask about their kids. It does not mean, go to their house or invite them to yours.
It does mean allow them into your pulpit and allow them to speak with your full approval. It does mean to send your kids off to some overnight camp with their kids and have their teachers teach your children doctrine.
You people who want the Good Elder to be some ogre are just silly.
The Good Elder and I don’t necessarily agree on this point. I do think that any Trinitarian who has been baptized in Jesus Name and filled with the Holy Ghost (and has not rejected the experience as some I know have) has a good chance at salvation.
(Imnottoallysureyoucanbesavedandvotedemocrat) hee hee.... Elder Light how are you my friend?
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Jesus had the Power to save the "prostitutes, publicans and sinners". He came to deliver them and save them FROM their sins, not "fellowship" them IN their sins. He told the woman who was accused of being caught in the very act of adultery, to go and sin no more. He didn't condemn her. Jesus came to set the captives free. Sin had held them captive.
MP knows what the word "Fellowship" means in the context that Elder Epley used it but for others who think that means having dinner with someone let me elucidate.
“Fellowship” means to “Extend the Right Hand of Fellowship”. In other words, to stamp that person with official approval and as a pastor point to them as an example for the flock you serve.
Fellowship does not mean, dine with. Meet upon occasion. Hug when you see them and ask about their kids. It does not mean, go to their house or invite them to yours.
It does mean allow them into your pulpit and allow them to speak with your full approval. It does mean to send your kids off to some overnight camp with their kids and have their teachers teach your children doctrine.
You people who want the Good Elder to be some ogre are just silly.
The Good Elder and I don’t necessarily agree on this point. I do think that any Trinitarian who has been baptized in Jesus Name and filled with the Holy Ghost (and has not rejected the experience as some I know have) has a good chance at salvation.
(Imnottoallysureyoucanbesavedandvotedemocrat) hee hee.... Elder Light how are you my friend?
Doing good but you really took a huge chance asking a senior citizen how their doing. Ha.
Merry Christmas to you and yours Ferd.
Folks who would fellowship Trinitarians do NOT believe the message themselves.
The stark truth of the matter is that you don't believe most Oneness Pentecostals are saved either:
Jesus Name people who fellowship trinities
Jesus Name, Holy Ghost baptized women who trim or color their hair.
Onesness preachers who watch television.
And the list goes on and on.
Take heart Trinities, there will be far more Pentecostals in Elder Epley's Hell than in his Heaven.
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Satan got cast out of Heaven for such pride, I pray that in your firm belief that you don't miss Him. The Pharisees missed Him because of their mindset, pride and legalism.
God please forgive me forever for ever judging your Bride. God just forgive me. I am so filled with joy unspeakable to be free.
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MP knows what the word "Fellowship" means in the context that Elder Epley used it but for others who think that means having dinner with someone let me elucidate.
“Fellowship” means to “Extend the Right Hand of Fellowship”. In other words, to stamp that person with official approval and as a pastor point to them as an example for the flock you serve.
Fellowship does not mean, dine with. Meet upon occasion. Hug when you see them and ask about their kids. It does not mean, go to their house or invite them to yours.
It does mean allow them into your pulpit and allow them to speak with your full approval. It does mean to send your kids off to some overnight camp with their kids and have their teachers teach your children doctrine.
You people who want the Good Elder to be some ogre are just silly.
The Good Elder and I don’t necessarily agree on this point. I do think that any Trinitarian who has been baptized in Jesus Name and filled with the Holy Ghost (and has not rejected the experience as some I know have) has a good chance at salvation.
(Imnottoallysureyoucanbesavedandvotedemocrat) hee hee.... Elder Light how are you my friend?
Satan got cast out of Heaven for such pride, I pray that in your firm belief that you don't miss Him. The Pharisees missed Him because of their mindset, pride and legalism.
God please forgive me forever for ever judging your Bride. God just forgive me. I am so filled with joy unspeakable to be free.
God's Bride is not engaged to a 3headed freak. Where are those guys always talking about the Roman church?