All Trinitarians are Lost!!!!!!!!!!!

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I believe they will go to Hell however that decision is up to God He is the final judge.

And does the Bible say what will happen to someone who dies lost?

[preacherman]

Apostolic means to believe in the Apostles Doctrine.Yes Acts 2:38 is part of the Apostles doctrine,but so are this verses.
Rom. 10-8,9:That if thou shalt confess with the mouth the LORD JESUS,and shalt believe in thine heart that GOD hath raised HIM from the dead,thou shalt be saved.
John 3-16:I believe that we all know what that says.
1 John 4-14,15:Whosoever shall confess that JESUS is the son of GOD,GOD dwelleth in him,and he in GOD.
Now you said that we must believe that JESUS is GOD,(And yes i do believe that JESUS was GOD manifested in the flesh)But the Bible says that we must believe that JESUS is the Son of GOD to be saved.1 John 4-15;Acts 8-37:
I Baptize in the name of JESUS CHRIST,and i know that is the wright way to baptize,but i know according to the WORD of GOD that when we truley believe and repent then that is when we are saved.everything else we do is a fruit of our savlation.And if a person hears about baptism in JESUS name and rejects it then they will be held acountable for thier disobedience.
But people can only walk in what they know.
I say let us live in the Love of JESUS and let GOD jugde others.Our responsibility as Christians is to Preach and live the Word of GOD,and let GOD deal with those who don't walk according to HIS WORD.Only GOD knows the heart of evey man.
But i am thankful that GOD is the judge of evey man,and not us.

[ThePastorsCoach]

Originally Posted by preacherman

Apostolic means to believe in the Apostles Doctrine.Yes Acts 2:38 is part of the Apostles doctrine,but so are this verses.
Rom. 10-8,9:That if thou shalt confess with the mouth the LORD JESUS,and shalt believe in thine heart that GOD hath raised HIM from the dead,thou shalt be saved.
John 3-16:I believe that we all know what that says.
1 John 4-14,15:Whosoever shall confess that JESUS is the son of GOD,GOD dwelleth in him,and he in GOD.
Now you said that we must believe that JESUS is GOD,(And yes i do believe that JESUS was GOD manifested in the flesh)But the Bible says that we must believe that JESUS is the Son of GOD to be saved.1 John 4-15;Acts 8-37:
I Baptize in the name of JESUS CHRIST,and i know that is the wright way to baptize,but i know according to the WORD of GOD that when we truley believe and repent then that is when we are saved.everything else we do is a fruit of our savlation.And if a person hears about baptism in JESUS name and rejects it then they will be held acountable for thier disobedience.
But people can only walk in what they know.
I say let us live in the Love of JESUS and let GOD jugde others.Our responsibility as Christians is to Preach and live the Word of GOD,and let GOD deal with those who don't walk according to HIS WORD.Only GOD knows the heart of evey man.
But i am thankful that GOD is the judge of evey man,and not us.

Sorry Sir but Apostolic does NOT mean to believe in the Apostles Doctrine! As well meaning as you meant to be - that is simply YOUR definition of Apostolic.
Please use your spell checker!

[preacherman]

Then could you please tell me what Apostolic means.And yes i will check my spelling from now on.Sorry for the misspelled words.I do know that all that say they are Apostolic don't follow the apostles teaching,but that is what the word means.

[AreYouReady?]

Well, AB is correct in that not all who claim to be "Apostolic" follow the Apostles Doctrine.

The RCC claims to be the "One Holy and Apostolic Church" and have a doctrine completely different from a true Biblical standpoint.

[ThePastorsCoach]

Originally Posted by preacherman

Then could you please tell me what Apostolic means.And yes i will check my spelling from now on.Sorry for the misspelled words.

Gladly and Thank you!
I am sure that everyone has their own definition of Apostolic but here is mine:
Apostolic - Believing, Living and Demonstrating what the Apostles of the Lord Jesus Christ did.
I spent almost 20 years in the "Apostolic" ministry and movement. It was RARE to see ANY demonstration of the Apostolic beyond water baptism in the name of Jesus and then it was done so many different ways and was not (and is not) consistent at all in wording. If we believe that the WORDS matter then it has to be uniform and ALL have to say the EXACT SAME THING. That has not and WILL NOT happen!
It was rare to see true REPENTANCE & DELIVERANCE, devils cast out, the nine gifts of the Spirit in operation, Operation of the Five Fold Ministry, a true love for The Lord Jesus Christ instead of just HIS NAME. The Power of God demonstrated in instant visible miracles, healings, signs, wonders and the Prophetic flowing in preaching and personal ministry.
It saddens me for I can see what the Apostolic Movement could be but sadly will never be because is is guided and driven by ego, elitism and sectarianism. The leaders walk in fear of man and will not sit down the false and lying prophets among them for fear of losing some control or popularity.
What the leadership and hierarchy cannot control they try to kill (murder their influence). It is a sad day in the Apostolic Movement that men lord over God's heritage and rule with corrupt political ambition.
I am thankful that I am not a part of it and left it 12 years ago.

[Steve Epley]

Brought the old forum back to life did I not? ONLY in baptism in Jesus Name are the sins of the penitent remitted since Pentecost.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Brought the old forum back to life did I not? ONLY in baptism in Jesus Name are the sins of the penitent remitted since Pentecost.

Yes! You should post more often.

[ThePastorsCoach]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Brought the old forum back to life did I not? ONLY in baptism in Jesus Name are the sins of the penitent remitted since Pentecost.

But WHICH "baptism in Jesus Name"?
In Jesus Name
In the Name of Jesus
In the Name of Jesus Christ
In the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ
In the name of the Lord Jesus
In the Name of Jesus for the remission of sins
In the Name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost
In the Name of Jesus Christ our Lord
In the Name of Jesus Christ in running water
In the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ in running water facing forward
In the name of the Lord (dunk backward) Jesus (dunk backward) Christ (dunk backward)
In the name of Yashua Hamishea or your own interpretation of the Hebrew, Aramaic or Greek language.
Into The Lord Jesus Christ
In the Name of Jesus Christ (only by certified and licensed minister in your organization, fellowship, movement, network, etc...)
Baptism by a male only
Baptized by a minister wearing all white
Baptized by a minister that believes that everyone else is going to hell except the ones he baptizes.

I am sure there are many other ways to say it but if the WORDING is what saves you - Wouldn't it have to be EXACT?
We don't want to be lost by a technicality!

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Any true Apostolic believes Jn.8:24 teaches if you do not believe Jesus is the Father you will die in your sins.

Which Father are you talking about. The one who sent Jesus in John 8:26 or someone else?