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12-01-2010, 10:05 AM
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Re: Paralyzed accident victim fights for right to
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Originally Posted by Baron1710
Right so unhook the machines and pray, "Thy will be done."
It is one thing to administer a life ending drug to someone because they are in a painful situation it is another thing altogether to force someone to live by hooking them up to a machine.
I say let him unhook the machines if he wants to.
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And that's a great point! Are we circumventing God's will by hooking a person up to 4 million dollars worth of machines? I understand this argument could be applied to all medical treatment, but still.....it's interesting.
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12-01-2010, 10:06 AM
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Re: Paralyzed accident victim fights for right to
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A positive note on a post that sounds so gloomy. Yesterday my pulmonologist (not sure how to spell that) told me that my lungs are operating at 70 percent capacity compared to 50 percent capacity in January of this year. God is good.
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Outstanding for you!
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12-01-2010, 10:09 AM
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Re: Paralyzed accident victim fights for right to
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And that's a great point! Are we circumventing God's will by hooking a person up to 4 million dollars worth of machines? I understand this argument could be applied to all medical treatment, but still.....it's interesting.
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And I have no problem with someone that doesn't want to take medication as long as they are competent to reject it. I don't want a parent refusing life saving drugs for a minor.
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12-01-2010, 10:09 AM
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Re: Paralyzed accident victim fights for right to
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A positive note on a post that sounds so gloomy. Yesterday my pulmonologist (not sure how to spell that) told me that my lungs are operating at 70 percent capacity compared to 50 percent capacity in January of this year. God is good.
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Praise the Lord!!
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12-01-2010, 10:15 AM
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Re: Paralyzed accident victim fights for right to
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A positive note on a post that sounds so gloomy. Yesterday my pulmonologist (not sure how to spell that) told me that my lungs are operating at 70 percent capacity compared to 50 percent capacity in January of this year. God is good.
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That's awesome, Sam.
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12-01-2010, 10:17 AM
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Re: Paralyzed accident victim fights for right to
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And I have no problem with someone that doesn't want to take medication as long as they are competent to reject it. I don't want a parent refusing life saving drugs for a minor.
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...as a former bible school classmate, who's dorm room was next to mine, did and is now serving serious prison time.
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12-01-2010, 10:25 AM
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Re: Paralyzed accident victim fights for right to
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...as a former bible school classmate, who's dorm room was next to mine, did and is now serving serious prison time.
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I don't know your classmate
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it sounds like he/she did what he/she thought was the right thing to do.
It would be harder for me as a parent to with hold medical help from my child that it would for me to with hold medical help from myself.
However-- If I want to "trust the Lord" and refuse medical help for myself it is one thing but for me to "trust the Lord" for my child it is some thing else. I think it is good for the civil authorities to intervene in cases like this, but, I'm kinda fearful of where that "slippery slope" may lead to with the state taking over the "rights" of the parents, especially when "religion" is involved.
Here in Ohio, we know of churches (both UPC and ALJC) which do not believe in doctors and medicine.
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12-01-2010, 10:48 AM
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Re: Paralyzed accident victim fights for right to
My dad and I have had discussions about how far to carry the right to live/die. I watched a close family member get injured and give up on life, yet still continue to be held to living. He wasn't going to get better, was in serious pain, and the doctors knew it was only a matter of time. I don't want that. Not for myself or anyone I know. Dad is scared of my opinion, though. He saw the same thing, but he wants to keep living for as long as possible, just in case. I understand his wishes and would do what he wanted for him if he were in that situation.
I feel for this young man. I wonder if he'd had the choice of living or dying at three, what he would have chosen? Is he glad of any of the years he had? If he had some viable option of a career, would he take it, and want to live?
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12-01-2010, 11:21 AM
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Re: Paralyzed accident victim fights for right to
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...as a former bible school classmate, who's dorm room was next to mine, did and is now serving serious prison time.
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Dale? That situation involved refusing to take their child to the hospital and only calling 911 after she was either dead, or almost so.
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12-01-2010, 11:45 AM
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Re: Paralyzed accident victim fights for right to
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Dale? That situation involved refusing to take their child to the hospital and only calling 911 after she was either dead, or almost so.
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Yes, Dale. But the 911 call came from a relative in California who found out what was going on.
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