Paralyzed accident victim fights for right to die

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

My daughter was just asking me, this morning, what was so great about Job getting everything back when he lost his children. "You can't replace your children." She wanted to know why God would do that to someone. That's a "Why God?" question for you! I have no idea.

Job is often a touchy subject for me. God put up Job in a bet with the devil? Killed his kids and having twice as many kids afterwards was supposed to be a consolation prize? I often side with the Job-parable-theorists...maybe just because I have personal issues with the story.

[Azzan]

Originally Posted by notofworks

If saying something completely against AFF rules would cause you to reciprocate and then get us both banned, I'd be willing to take the fall just to get you to shut up. So how 'bout it....if I say something horrible to you, will you return like you did recently with DA? I haven't posted much lately anyway and I'll just happily take the week off. Deal?

Just ignore him NoW. I really don't know what goes through his head but it appears that a lot of his posts are aimed to instigate.

[sandie]

Originally Posted by notofworks

Job is often a touchy subject for me. God put up Job in a bet with the devil? Killed his kids and having twice as many kids afterwards was supposed to be a consolation prize? I often side with the Job-parable-theorists...maybe just because I have personal issues with the story.

I don't think Job had twice as many kids afterwards. He did get everything else back double, however.
Yeah...Job isn't my favorite book either, though I do admire Job's attitude in the end.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Azzan

Just ignore him NoW. I really don't know what goes through his head but it appears that a lot of his posts are aimed to instigate.

You're right and I understand. And 99% of the time, I ignore his manure. But in the discussion of the physically disabled and challenged, it get touchy....I admit it. I spent the entire time reading the original post by Twisp with tears running down my face. And then to read his garbage?.....this is a hallowed subject and no place for someone wanting to start controversy.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by sandie

I don't think Job had twice as many kids afterwards. He did get everything else back double, however.
Yeah...Job isn't my favorite book either, though I do admire Job's attitude in the end.

I'm sorry, you're correct. I typed twice as much goods in my mind and actually applied that to kids. Thank you for pointing that out.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by sandie

I don't think Job had twice as many kids afterwards. He did get everything else back double, however.
Yeah...Job isn't my favorite book either, though I do admire Job's attitude in the end.

He didn't have twice as many living kids but the number of his children doubled. Half were alive with him and half were in heaven.

[Sam]

My wife would say, "We treat Fido better than we treat Grandma."
She firmly believes that in conditions where there is no possibility of a medical cure a person who wishes to terminate his/her life should be honored.

I don't know if I feel that strongly about it or not. I have an incurable lung condition (incurable by human and medical standards). The only cure would be a lung transplant but I am in my seventies and, in my opinion, it would be morally wrong for me to receive new lungs when there are others younger than I who need them. I am mobile. I am not on oxygen. I get winded very easily and cannot walk far or exert myself so my condition is not intolerable. And, as I have told my pulmonologist, we are praying and I expect the dead areas of my lungs to be regenerated.

Both my wife and I have living wills and we both have given full power of attorney to each other.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by sandie

I don't think Job had twice as many kids afterwards. He did get everything else back double, however.
Yeah...Job isn't my favorite book either, though I do admire Job's attitude in the end.

I wonder does it have something to do with Jesus' sacrifice for us? Hebrews 12:4 says, "Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin." Job never went to the extent that Jesus did. Is that one of the points?

I'm reading a story about a missionary in China who had been persecuted and tortured - needles under his fingernails and electrical shocks from a baton. But, God strengthens him and he said that the ultimate peace he had was when he had surrendered body, mind and soul to the service and care of God. When you can be tortured knowing that God is going to take care of you or take you home, that has to be perfect peace.

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by coadie

It is hard to pray thy will be done.

Right so unhook the machines and pray, "Thy will be done."

It is one thing to administer a life ending drug to someone because they are in a painful situation it is another thing altogether to force someone to live by hooking them up to a machine.

I say let him unhook the machines if he wants to.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Sam

My wife would say, "We treat Fido better than we treat Grandma."
She firmly believes that in conditions where there is no possibility of a medical cure a person who wishes to terminate his/her life should be honored.

I don't know if I feel that strongly about it or not. I have an incurable lung condition (incurable by human and medical standards). The only cure would be a lung transplant but I am in my seventies and, in my opinion, it would be morally wrong for me to receive new lungs when there are others younger than I who need them. I am mobile. I am not on oxygen. I get winded very easily and cannot walk far or exert myself so my condition is not intolerable. And, as I have told my pulmonologist, we are praying and I expect the dead areas of my lungs to be regenerated.

Both my wife and I have living wills and we both have given full power of attorney to each other.

A positive note on a post that sounds so gloomy. Yesterday my pulmonologist (not sure how to spell that) told me that my lungs are operating at 70 percent capacity compared to 50 percent capacity in January of this year. God is good.