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Old 10-02-2010, 05:32 PM
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Re: st.john 5;19

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Is 44:6 Thus saith Jehovah, the King of Israel, and his Redeemer, Jehovah of hosts: I [am] the first, and I [am] the last, and beside me there is no God.

Jehovah is the First and the Last

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12 And I turned back to see the voice which spoke with me; and having turned, I saw seven golden lamps,
13and in the midst of the [seven] lamps [one] like [the] Son of man, clothed with a garment reaching to the feet, and girt about at the breasts with a golden girdle:
14his head and hair white like white wool, as snow; and his eyes as a flame of fire;
15and his feet like fine brass, as burning in a furnace; and his voice as the voice of many waters;
16and having in his right hand seven stars; and out of his mouth a sharp two-edged sword going forth; and his countenance as the sun shines in its power.
17And when I saw him I fell at his feet as dead; and he laid his right hand upon me, saying, Fear not; *I* am the first and the last,
18and the living one: and I became dead, and behold, I am living to the ages of ages, and have the keys of death and of hades.

Brother, the Son of Man (Jesus) said He is the First and the Last.
This is one place where the Son says He is God
Since when can God die?
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Re: st.john 5;19

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Since when can God die?
Since He was manifested in flesh
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Re: st.john 5;19

Just a question for PR and SRG. Was the logos of God, God? To put it another way, Is God also His Word? What is YOUR definition of the Word (logos) and how does it square with John 1?
I'm just curious, but taking what John had to say about the Word being made flesh, what does that mean exactly, to you? If you agree that the Word spoken of by John is God, then it follows that God was "made flesh". God (in the form of His Word) is eternal. His seed "overshadowed" Mary who subsequently bore the Son of Man in Beth-lehem. I know this is probably elementary to you, but I'd like you to explain John in context to me.
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Re: st.john 5;19

Ps..110:1
"A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool." Mt 22:44; Heb 1:13
Fulfilled prophecy about the Son of God.

Joh..10:33
The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
Were the Jews completely misunderstanding what Jesus said about Himself?
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