i understand i really do. i honor and admire the work ethic of the hispanic community and their family values. I am one that has no problem with it CP. as i asked though, what do we do when our basic systems become depleted? raise our taxes? they are already off the charts here.
my grandparents imigrated and settled in chicago but they didnt have welfare and medicare etc then. you just had to do it on your own.
Thad, I know the world is a lot bigger than just who I deal with...but honestly I deal with VERY FEW immigrants who are on welfare...
In fact, let me tell you this.
I pastor a Spanish Church. In my years as Pastor, I have yet to have one black or spanish homeless person come to ask me for money.
The ONLY people that ever come asking for money or assistance are white people specificly white males
I do understand your concern and it is something that has be dealt with.
On September 22, 2005, the Congressional Research Service (CRS) issued a report documenting the risk of failure to secure the borders.
According to the report, in 2004 the US Border Patrol apprehended 1.16 million people attempting to enter the US illegally.
If we go along with the USBP's statistic that one in four illegal aliens gets caught, this means that some 4.64 million illegal aliens attempted entry into the US in 2004 and of these 3.48 million got here undetected.
More than just a threat, we have clear proof that the Lebanon based terrorist organization Hezbollah has already brought sleeper agents into the US across our southern border.
On March 1, 2005, Mahmoud Youssef Kourani pleaded guilty to federal charges of using meetings at his home in Dearborn, Michigan to raise money for Hezbollah's terrorist activities in Lebanon.
Kourani was an illegal alien who had been smuggled across our border through Mexico after he bribed a Mexican consular official in Beirut to get him a visa to travel to Mexico. Kourani and a Middle Eastern traveling partner then paid "coyotes" in Mexico to get them into the US.
Kourani established residence among the Lebanese expatriate community in Dearborn, Michigan and began soliciting funds for Hezbollah terrorists back home.
In December 2002, Salim Boughader Mucharrafille, a cafe owner in Tijuana, Mexico was arrested for smuggling more than two hundred Lebanese illegally into the US, including several believed to have terrorist ties to Hezbollah.
On November 12, 2003, Mexican authorities arrested Imelda Ortiz Abdala, Mexico's consul in Lebanon, on human-trafficking charges for helping Boughader organize his smuggling scheme to get Hezbollah operatives into the US through Tijuana.
The vast majority of illegal aliens caught at the border by the USBP - 93 percent - are Mexicans. For this reason, the USBP, for simplicity, divides apprehended illegal aliens into two categories - Mexicans and "other than Mexicans", or OTM's for short.
The Border Patrol captures a staggering number of OTMs, a total of 119,192 in 2005, most of who were from Middle Eastern countries. Even more alarming, the number of OTMs apprehended has more than tripled - increasing 220 percent from 2002 to 2005.
Mexico won't take responsibility for the OTMs, because they are not Mexican citizens. So, the US is left with having to deport the person to their country of nationality. Returning an OTM is not as simple as putting the person on a bus and driving them home. In most cases, a hearing is required, so the OTMs are simply released into society on their promise to return on a specified court date, a promise usually broken.
I work with the Latin American community on a daily basis and am myself Latin American.
My Father came becuase he wanted a better life and knew that the USA could provide it. He came over when there was an amnestiy and has always been legal, but how do you deny someone a better life because you feel like you own the country?
That sounds harsh but that is the attitude portrayed by you.
Your ancestors were able to come over and get a better life in America, why can't someone else do the same?
I will tell you this, IF Congress makes the immigration reform it is talking about, you will see MILLIONS of Latinos fix their papers and become legal.
They don't want to be here illegaly, in fact their life as an illegal is a lot harder than you know it.
They didn't want to cross the border illegaly but it was the only way for the them to come to this country
I have a different perspective living around many of them here close to the Mexican border.
I have a different perspective living around many of them here close to the Mexican border.
I'm not arguing with you or trying to carry on.
Your perspective is based on where you live
What I stated is my perspective based on the millions that lived around me in Chicago and the hundreds of thousands that now live around me in Virginia.
What I stated is my perspective based on the millions that lived around me in Chicago and the hundreds of thousands that now live around me in Virginia.
I am not trying to argue either. We have some good friends doing excellent work with the Spanish ministries. They are a hard people to deal with, for the most part. Even Wynn Drost said the same thing.
I am specifically speaking of the "wets". I'd have to go into details which couldn't be posted here.
We have some that have moved up the street from us. I don't even go outside and go walking anymore and keep the door locked when my husband is at work. They are undocumented, like white women, and well.....
This is a reality for me, here in Texas. You can scoff and think it's crazy, but we know.
I am not trying to argue either. We have some good friends doing excellent work with the Spanish ministries. They are a hard people to deal with, for the most part. Even Wynn Drost said the same thing.
I am specifically speaking of the "wets". I'd have to go into details which couldn't be posted here.
We have some that have moved up the street from us. I don't even go outside and go walking anymore and keep the door locked when my husband is at work. They are undocumented, like white women, and well.....
This is a reality for me, here in Texas. You can scoff and think it's crazy, but we know.
Don't get me started!
First off, your comment about the "wets" is VERY offensive. To me that is about as bad as you calling a black person the "n" word.
I live amongst white people and I keep my doors locked too.
I have relatives in Texas too, they don't talk the way you do.
The people in my neighborhood that cause the most problems are white, but I don't talk about them the way you do about Latinos.
You unfortunatley sound racist.
I'm not saying there isn't bad latinos out there...but NO MORE than there are white or black or any other race.
First off, your comment about the "wets" is VERY offensive. To me that is about as bad as you calling a black person the "n" word.
I live amongst white people and I keep my doors locked too.
I have relatives in Texas too, they don't talk the way you do.
The people in my neighborhood that cause the most problems are white, but I don't talk about them the way you do about Latinos.
You unfortunatley sound racist.
I'm not saying there isn't bad latinos out there...but NO MORE than there are white or black or any other race.
I'm sorry to have offended you. It's a term that is used here by most of the ranchers and farmers. I suppose I am a little prejudice toward the dangerous and offensive Mexicans that come through here.
Incidentally, the word, "wets" used in our area is not generally used in a derogatory term. It simply identifies the illegal from the American Mexican. I can see how it could be "not" politically correct, though.
My father's ranch was open to any that came through Eagle Pass. They knew they could stop there to rest and to eat, but we were warned to not look at the men or talk when they were around.
I guess it has bothered me more than I have ever been aware.
Immigration is for people that want to come and be an American and loyal to the system.
Illegal immigration is coming over here and trying to take over America with no intended loyalty at all.
This is the big issue. Flying the Mexican flag and claiming that they will take Tejas back is not loyalty.
Don't get me started!!!!!
Well, I live in lowly Wisconsin where the local Indian tribes see me as an illegal immigrant, but they don't realize I'm just as Native American as they are.
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I work with the Latin American community on a daily basis and am myself Latin American.
My Father came becuase he wanted a better life and knew that the USA could provide it. He came over when there was an amnestiy and has always been legal, but how do you deny someone a better life because you feel like you own the country?
That sounds harsh but that is the attitude portrayed by you.
Your ancestors were able to come over and get a better life in America, why can't someone else do the same?
I will tell you this, IF Congress makes the immigration reform it is talking about, you will see MILLIONS of Latinos fix their papers and become legal.
They don't want to be here illegaly, in fact their life as an illegal is a lot harder than you know it.
They didn't want to cross the border illegaly but it was the only way for the them to come to this country
And if we will be honest with ourselves....the white people anyway.....we did this same thing when we came over in the 1500's and 1600's. We took over this country and made it our own. There was no better life here when our ancestors came over. This was 'the new world' and a place to explore, but we turned it into our own country and left the indians with nothing but casinos and reservations.
I don't live in Texas or anywhere in the southwest where I know there are problems that the rest of the world doesn't see, but I don't see it as any different than what we did 500 years ago to the natives who lived here when we took over.
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Sorry but this is apples and oranges really. When we can run a FBI and Homeland Security background check on someone it is always better.
I am pro immigration too. It is vital for much of our economy to compete. However, what illegal immigrants want is of no consequence really. We are a nation of laws, not wishes. The vast majority of the third world would wish to live here.
The problem for me is, they will be doing those background checks on me and expecting me to carry a national ID card.
If this country wasn't so free in giving illegals money and welfare, there might not be much of a reason for them to come over unless it's to work for a living.
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