Is it a good thing to have our faith shaken once in a while?

[Jekyll]

Originally Posted by Carpenter

...and another thing...never mind [deleted]

One thing I do know...while I have strong opinions and a penchant for not swallowing hook-line-sinker, even a somewhat (okay, that is understated) critical/cynical nature...I am not above (and hope to never be) seeing shortcomings, faults and fissures in my own life...

God has a knack for trusting His kids so that if we say we believe something, He thinks that we can handle the package that comes along with the power those beliefs bring...so when the tests/trials/shake up occurs, our faith is to be built up especially if we live in His word

This is one reason why believing in false doctrine is so dangerous...God will allow us to suffer the consequences of believing in heresy because he trusts us to be able to handle it...when those beliefs fail the same tests of faith, then, through His grace, we can recover from the harm our beliefs and actions cause...and our faith can still become stronger through the truth of His word...

IMHO

[Jekyll]

Originally Posted by RevDWW

I wonder if there is a remedy for this????

Don't believe him...the sun rises and sets with ole Carpy...well the fresh springtime days anyway...

She blames the rain and wind on the other two boys...

[Ron]

Originally Posted by rrford

Perhaps that is why the scripture says "that can be." How does God know whether one can stay faithful unless faiuth is tried and shaken?

Even the Lord told Simon the Lucifer desired to have him, that he may sift him as wheat. Sifting is a shaking process, more or less.

Trials come, trials go. Faith remains if it was firm to begin with.

Faith is not proven in whether God answers your prayer requests; it is proven by what you do until He does answer.

Very Good Bro!

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Jekyll

One thing I do know...while I have strong opinions and a penchant for not swallowing hook-line-sinker, even a somewhat (okay, that is understated) critical/cynical nature...I am not above (and hope to never be) seeing shortcomings, faults and fissures in my own life...

God has a knack for trusting His kids so that if we say we believe something, He thinks that we can handle the package that comes along with the power those beliefs bring...so when the tests/trials/shake up occurs, our faith is to be built up especially if we live in His word

This is one reason why believing in false doctrine is so dangerous...God will allow us to suffer the consequences of believing in heresy because he trusts us to be able to handle it...when those beliefs fail the same tests of faith, then, through His grace, we can recover from the harm our beliefs and actions cause...and our faith can still become stronger through the truth of His word...

IMHO

You had me thinking, "great post" until that last paragraph. First you say that God allows us to handle certain beliefs, but the person who you say believes false doctrine, doesn't or is not aware that they believe false doctrine, so how does that make us who think we have the truth different from anyone else? Why on earth would the Lord allow someone in a search for truth to believe or keep believing false doctrine? That being said...keep reading...

Most every human being on the face of the earth along with their unique way of looking at and seeing and defining things, has something wrong with or is a might inaccurate in what they believe, including you and me...but especially me. (did you get my little...double entendre there...?)

No man/woman has the ultimate truth, that would in wise, make him/her ultimately perfect.

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Jekyll

Don't believe him...the sun rises and sets with ole Carpy...well the fresh springtime days anyway...

She blames the rain and wind on the other two boys...

la la la la la la la la la

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Carpenter

This caused me to think back about the many different people that I know, and undoubtedly that you know, who are in church one week, running the isles, condeming my wedding ring, and shouting the victory, while the next week, they are back running with the boys, reeking of smoke, sitting in the back pew with a downtrodden look.

I am not sure what to do with those people because while they appear to be so fickle and shallow, I have absolutely no clue what is going on with them on the inside and outside the church. I suppose I do well to just let them be.

Another thought hit me that when people compliment my mom on how well she raised three strapping boys by herself, she gets even indignant and makes sure that person knows it was the Lord and the Lord only who did it. Nowadays they only compliment her on two of her sons instead of the three.

If this is true then they are idiots. If it is not true and you are jesting...I would say that your mother has truly raised three wonderful sons.

Blessings, Rhoni

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

If this is true then they are idiots. If it is not true and you are jesting...I would say that your mother has truly raised three wonderful sons.

Blessings, Rhoni

Hey Jeckyl, untie Freddy from the stake and put that Map gas away...

[Jekyll]

Originally Posted by Carpenter

You had me thinking, "great post" until that last paragraph. First you say that God allows us to handle certain beliefs, but the person who you say believes false doctrine, doesn't or is not aware that they believe false doctrine, so how does that make us who think we have the truth different from anyone else? Why on earth would the Lord allow someone in a search for truth to believe or keep believing false doctrine? That being said...keep reading...

Most every human being on the face of the earth along with their unique way of looking at and seeing and defining things, has something wrong with or is a might inaccurate in what they believe, including you and me...but especially me. (did you get my little...double entendre there...?)

No man/woman has the ultimate truth, that would in wise, make him/her ultimately perfect.

That is why I said it was dangerous to go into false doctrine...if the qualifications are not made to indeed identify false doctrine...God will let us go on our merry little way (with us ignoring our spirit-sense) and let the storms of life hopefully point us back to truth...

I was taking for granted that to indeed go into false doctrine one must have allowed the fail-safe testing of spirits and Word of God to bcome a lesser voice in preference to that "new" or "novel" idea...

[Jekyll]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

If this is true then they are idiots. If it is not true and you are jesting...I would say that your mother has truly raised three wonderful sons.

Blessings, Rhoni

I wonder what she would say about Hyde...

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Jekyll

I wonder what she would say about Hyde...

Well, mental illness can be treated..to some extent...or you could just cast out the demons and be done with it!