But nobody knows. You don't know for sure that you have guessed right. Muslims don't know for sure, Mormans, Hindus, you name it. They have all guessed what to believe (or just followed their parents, without questioning it). They can't all be right. But they may all be wrong!
Well, for one thing, the Word agrees with the Spirit of God within me!
A lot of times that Word & Spirit rubs my flesh the wrong way!
And the problems arise when calling homosexuality a sin is then called "bullying."
If a high school boy can come to school dressed flamboyantly gay, and proclaim his feelings for his boyfriend, and they can make out in front of their classmates, then a Christian child should have the equal freedom to speak up and say that those are wrong acts in the sight of God without fear of reprisal from the school staff or any other organization.
The truth is, their agenda does not just include freedom for themselves, but they want to change everyone else's MIND about it as well, and are angry when they can't. The very people who claim to be all about diversity, are really very narrow minded.
I agree with the principles you give, here. Everyone should be allowed to have their own opinions, and to express them without repercussions.
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
But nobody knows. You don't know for sure that you have guessed right. Muslims don't know for sure, Mormans, Hindus, you name it. They have all guessed what to believe (or just followed their parents, without questioning it). They can't all be right. But they may all be wrong!
Timmy, it isn't true that nobody knows. I think that you assume since you don't know, that the rest of us can't either.
But you're wrong about that.
Psalm 135:5For I know that the LORD is great, and that our Lord is above all gods.
I John 2:3And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. I John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. I John 2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. I John 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
The truth is, Timmy, that I KNOW who He is. I may only know in part, but I still KNOW. I am truly sorry that you don't share that confidence.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
And the problems arise when calling homosexuality a sin is then called "bullying."
If a high school boy can come to school dressed flamboyantly gay, and proclaim his feelings for his boyfriend, and they can make out in front of their classmates, then a Christian child should have the equal freedom to speak up and say that those are wrong acts in the sight of God without fear of reprisal from the school staff or any other organization.
The truth is, their agenda does not just include freedom for themselves, but they want to change everyone else's MIND about it as well, and are angry when they can't. The very people who claim to be all about diversity, are really very narrow minded.
exactly. No one has the freedom to behave inappropreatly in public. yet that seems to be what some of these people want.
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Today marks the GLBT National Day of Silence. I don't know a lot about the reason or history of the day, I just know there are certain colors kids in schools wear to show they support GLBT rights - my sister said this years' color is red.
If you have kids, or know any in school, please post. I'd be interested in what happens in their school today.
Be nice if they made it a whole year
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There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
Timmy, it isn't true that nobody knows. I think that you assume since you don't know, that the rest of us can't either.
But you're wrong about that.
Psalm 135:5For I know that the LORD is great, and that our Lord is above all gods.
I John 2:3And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. I John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. I John 2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. I John 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
The truth is, Timmy, that I KNOW who He is. I may only know in part, but I still KNOW. I am truly sorry that you don't share that confidence.
You really don't see the circularness of this reasoning?
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
You really don't see the circularness of this reasoning?
Timmy, you know if I said in a courtroom today that, "I talked to God!"
That would most likely earn me a 72 hour lock down at Vancouver General Hospital for a Psyche evaluation & a Thorazine drip!
To an Apostolic that is normal because God is real!
It is the natural man that wanders around with welding goggles on telling people it isn't light out!
Timmy, you know if I said in a courtroom today that, "I talked to God!"
That would most likely earn me a 72 hour lock down at Vancouver General Hospital for a Psyche evaluation & a Thorazine drip!
To an Apostolic that is normal because God is real!
It is the natural man that wanders around with welding goggles on telling people it isn't light out!
I have never denied God's existence. But it does not follow that, since He is "real", He must therefore speak to people, nor that people can know when (and if) He does.
You might be interested in When God Speaks in Deep Waters. Maybe you have a good way of determining whether what you hear is really God, or something else, and/or have an opinion on whether that even matters.
Edit: oh, you said "I talked to God". I misread it. But, anyway, God does talk to you at times, I'd guess?
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
I have never denied God's existence. But it does not follow that, since He is "real", He must therefore speak to people, nor that people can know when (and if) He does.
You might be interested in When God Speaks in Deep Waters. Maybe you have a good way of determining whether what you hear is really God, or something else, and/or have an opinion on whether that even matters.
Edit: oh, you said "I talked to God". I misread it. But, anyway, God does talk to you at times, I'd guess?
It is like this, in matters of morality God never changes.
If murder is against God's law in the begining, it is against God's Law now & forever shall be.
As for Homosexuality, it is worse, it is an abomination.
It is like this, in matters of morality God never changes.
If murder is against God's law in the begining, it is against God's Law now & forever shall be.
As for Homosexuality, it is worse, it is an abomination.
Worse than murder. Mmmmmkay.
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
I am truly sorry that you don't share that confidence.
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