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01-02-2009, 11:26 AM
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Sister Alvear
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Re: Bill Drost
My husband has a great love for the Drost family.
By the way I know the national from Columbia that was a head figure in the split...Brother Campos...Met him years ago...
I have my personal opinions about things like this but maybe should not express them as I am a missionary...
I will just say I feel sorry for all involved in splits...All were good people but like me they were human...
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01-02-2009, 12:02 PM
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Re: Bill Drost
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear
My husband has a great love for the Drost family.
By the way I know the national from Columbia that was a head figure in the split...Brother Campos...Met him years ago...
I have my personal opinions about things like this but maybe should not express them as I am a missionary...
I will just say I feel sorry for all involved in splits...All were good people but like me they were human...
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Campos Elias left the national work with various churches some years later ... when he adopted "twinity" doctrine.
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01-02-2009, 12:07 PM
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Sister Alvear
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Re: Bill Drost
yes, Daniel you are correct...was his name Elias or Bernardo?
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01-02-2009, 02:23 PM
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" Ole Tyme Holiness Or Hell Preacherman "
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Re: Bill Drost
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Fixed the links ...
However, sociologist Flora writes about 1965 ...
If I take what Bishop Holland says ... the center of this was control ...
and especially control of the purse strings.
The national church in Colombia writes a manifesto in 1965 also.
In 1967 the break is finalized in Colombia ... Morley and Thompson
resign from the national affiliation ... and stay with the mothership ...
under the International umbrella.
I guess ... we can surmise that Drost ... was either sent to Spain
by the Canadian mission board ... or decided Europe was a greener
less politicized pasture than S. America ...
and of course in need of the message and heeding to the calling of
God.
Lastly, Spain has been a challenge for Oneness Pentecostals ...
even to this day ... it's strong roots in Catholicism and European
liberalism ... might have appealed to Drost as challenging field to
till. Those Spaniards, Italians and French will not give up their wine.
OPs have yet to make a significant dent in this area of the world, IMO.
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Thanks For That Book Link
It Verifies My Take On That Situation
The above mentioned split was entirely about the purse strings -
Case in Point
The Missionary Department Allocates Each Missionary An Annual Budget which.
in turn. is broken down to a monthly allowance - The Missionaries go on DEPUTATION
To the various UPCI Churches for the purpose of meeting the people and Pastors.
They Then Raise Funds and Pledges such as Parters In Missions ETC.
All Funds That Are Received Marked For That Missionary Are Applied To Their Account
Until That Monthly Allotment Is Fulfilled. If that quota is NOT met The
Foriegn NMissionary Department will apply the needed funds to cover the shortfall.
We found out. much to the Missionary's Dismay, each time we, as an Independant
Assembly, sent funds to UPCI Headquarters 'Designated For rMissionaries
that We Supported Our Funds Were Always Applied To The Proper Missionary's Account
{less 15% as Administration Expense}
BUT
If The FMD Had Already Applied ANY Undesignated Funds To That Account
They Would Take The Undesignated Amount Out Of Our Offering And put it in the
Foreigm Missionary General Fund.
We kept our ties with the Stairs, Drosts, Bristows, Morleys and the South America
Missionaries.Our Youth Dept sent Sis Morley A Weekly Letter That She Always
Looked Forward To Getting. Each Letter Always Contained Loose Tea
{the contents of 2 tea bags}
She would sift thru the mail and open that letter first, then brew her Tes And Then
Read Her Mail, She Never Forgot Us - LOL
I have never pastored a UPCI affiliated Church but we have always sent finiancial
support to several UPCI Missionaries and have since learned just how to get it there --
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01-02-2009, 02:50 PM
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Rebel with a cause.
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Re: Bill Drost
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Originally Posted by Bishop1
He, along with Wynn Stairs , and a group of several other Ministers
all left the UPCI at the same time - Part of the problem was the %
of Missionary Funding being withheld by headquarters -
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I thought that whole percentage hullabaloo was started by Wilkins in the mid to late 80s?
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01-02-2009, 02:53 PM
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Sister Alvear
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Re: Bill Drost
Thank God for men and women of God that worked under trying circumstances....
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01-02-2009, 10:34 PM
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Re: Bill Drost
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Originally Posted by Bishop1
He, along with Wynn Stairs , and a group of several other Ministers
all left the UPCI at the same time - Part of the problem was the %
of Missionary Funding being withheld by headquarters -
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They did not believe the New Birth message.
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01-02-2009, 10:39 PM
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Sister Alvear
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Re: Bill Drost
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
They did not believe the New Birth message.
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Brother Epley what do you mean by that? ( They did not believe in the New Birth Message.)
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01-02-2009, 10:49 PM
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Re: Bill Drost
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Originally Posted by jaxfam6
I don't know if that was his son and grandsons but yes there were Drost's in Mexico. The one is now in Texas if I remember right. He is a fantastic preacher and great person in general.
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And to that I agree. I still have a book "Orchestrating Revival" by W. Drost, and I read it when I need encouraging.
My greatest disappointment on that trip was the treatment received by Mexicans by the UPC preachers I was with.
There was a brother out of Gainesville, GA, that garnered my admiration, as well as my pastor at that time, who gave me the opportunity to be there, B. G. Miller.
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01-02-2009, 10:53 PM
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Sister Alvear
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Re: Bill Drost
I too have that book in fact I just loaned it to a new missionary.
I know Gerald and Dawn Drost are in Canada. I knew Dawn before she married!...
Gerald is one of Bill Drost´s sons.
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