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Old 10-03-2008, 02:20 PM
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Joelel,

They are two different lineages. One traces Jesus' physical lineage through Mary, the other traces His adopted lineage through Joseph.

As for the difference in generations...you understand that one man can have one son at 40, and never have another, while another man can have a son at 20, who bears the grandson at 20, and who bears the great-grandson at age 20...therefore one man lives to bring in 2 generations, and another has brought about 4 in the same timeframe.
No,they both are Joseph lineages.They don't even have Joseph's father the same.

Math.1:16: And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

Luke 3:23: And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli
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Old 10-03-2008, 02:35 PM
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Re: Did God ever command or desire praise or worsh

Joel,

You need time away from the Internet. Time with just you and Yeshua. Sounds like your faith is shipwrecked. You also need to let YAH show you the truth of his sovereignty.
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Old 10-03-2008, 02:44 PM
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First of all, the scripture says "presently", which can mean "immediately" OR "soon". That is supported by the verse in 21:20 when the disciples said, "How SOON...?" The word used for "presently" in verse 19 is the same word used for "soon" in verse 20.

Secondly, in Mark's Gospel, it doesn't say WHEN the fig tree died; it just points out when the disciples saw the dead tree. That fact is NOT contradicted by Matthew. Matthew doesn't say they saw it die immediately. It just recounts their surprise when they DID see the dead tree.
The point is,Math. said the tree died the same day as they were then present. Mark said they returned the next morning and the tree was dead.

Math.21:18: Now in the morning as he returned into the city, he hungered.
19: And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away.
20: And when the disciples saw it, they marvelled, saying, How soon is the fig tree withered away!

Mark 11:14: And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever. And his disciples heard it.
15: And they come to Jerusalem: and Jesus went into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves;
16: And would not suffer that any man should carry any vessel through the temple.
17: And he taught, saying unto them, Is it not written, My house shall be called of all nations the house of prayer? but ye have made it a den of thieves.
18: And the scribes and chief priests heard it, and sought how they might destroy him: for they feared him, because all the people was astonished at his doctrine.
19: And when even was come, he went out of the city.
20: And in the morning, as they passed by, they saw the fig tree dried up from the roots.
21: And Peter calling to remembrance saith unto him, Master, behold, the fig tree which thou cursedst is withered away.
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Old 10-03-2008, 03:15 PM
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Luke 19:39-41

39And some of the Pharisees from among the multitude said unto him, Master, rebuke thy disciples.

40And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out.
Go back and read in Gen.Jah or Jehovah never commanded or ask for praise or worship or offerings FIRST.It was started by man.Besides that he never FIRST commanded or ask man to call him God,that was started by man.
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these are lame questions, come on, get creative


-What did Jesus kneel down and draw in the sand?

-Was there ever anything prior to us?

-Will God ever create another world and/or another people ?

-Where was He and what was He doing between teaching in the tabernacle at age 13 till He started His ministry?

-When did Satan realize who Jesus really was?

-What does it feel like to be "caught up" by the spirit and transported somewhere else like Phillip was?

-Why wont God allow the saints eyes to be open all the time? (to see the presence of angels, etc)

-If the Holy Ghost could not be given till Christ was glorified, why didnt the Holy Ghost fall upon His assention? Why did the diciples have to go pray for it? They already believed..

-What does manna from heaven taste like?




I mean come on, get off the same ole scripture out of context, is the bible real, is God real garbage. Ask some questions with real thought to them. Not questions from an atheist pamplet.

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Joel, are you seeking out foolish questions?

God created everyone, including the "dumb, deaf, seeing or the blind", e.g., He is the author of all life, BUT he is not responsible for their afflictions. The ruination of the human condition, whether it is disease or genetic problems or mental issues can be blamed on man, who introduced sin to the human life, and along with it, human suffering.

Secondly, it is not a contradiction, because the devil CAN and does afflict people--as illustrated by the story of Job.
That's not the point,the point is one scripture says God makes people deaf and blind and an other says spirits do. What scripture is right ?
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Old 10-03-2008, 03:25 PM
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That's not the point,the point is one scripture says God makes people deaf and blind and an other says spirits do. What scripture is right ?
So, when you go and preach for someone, what do you preach?
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Go back and read in Gen.Jah or Jehovah never commanded or ask for praise or worship or offerings FIRST.It was started by man.Besides that he never FIRST commanded or ask man to call him God,that was started by man.

then don't call Him God

then don't praise or worship Him

then don't give offering to Him



anything else I can solve for you?

P.S. (don't ask Him for anything either, the provider concept was introduced by man too)
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That's not the point,the point is one scripture says God makes people deaf and blind and an other says spirits do. What scripture is right ?

I told you , God created the spirits
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God allows affliction on all

Matthew 5:45
That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
Fact is Jehovah can't be both hate and love.
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