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Old 05-25-2008, 09:33 PM
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Gang, I have a problem I am hoping you homeschooling parents can help me with. My middle daughter is having some serious issues with math. Basically, she is flunking math in a big way. I've thought about pulling her out of school to homeschool her, but that isn't feasible for us, either financially or timewise. However, I thought I could take advantage of the summer break and give her some additional instruction here at home. What do y'all suggest? Math has been an issue for her since day one. Do I go back to the beginning, and get 1st grade materials and work up from there? She is going to the 4th grade next school year. Also, what math program would be a good one to work at home like this? Thanks.
I would test her through something like Abeka or Alpha Omega (Even School of Tomorrow has good basic math courses.) They will then tell you where she needs to start, including where to fill in the "gaps." You could do it on the weekends, or in the evenings just like if she was being tutored. Summertime is a great time for it.

I'm not a fan of ACE/School of Tomorrow, however their elementary math is pretty good, easy to follow and easy to teach with. (My disclaimer--I do NOT recommend this curriculum for any other subject except Pre-K/Kindergarten, and I would really discourage it for upper grades.)

The reason ACE/SOT is good for this, is just the simplicity--they are PACEs (workbooks), and each PACE contains a couple of new concepts, plus a review of older math concepts. You test her on just those concepts, and when your daughter passes she moves to the next PACE number. The way ACE/SOT works, they will tell you what numbers to start with, and they will tell you what "gap" PACEs to go back and pick up on the missed concepts.

www.schooloftomorrow.com

You can visit the above link to order Math or Intermediate Math testing. They aren't very expensive. I think the basic math is 1st grade - 6th, and the other should be 5th - 10th or something like that. (I can't remember exactly which numbers correspond to which grade.) Regardless, I would go with the Math Diagnostic Test and Test Key. After that, I think you can just call up ACE and they will tell you what you need.

You might check into Saxon Math; I've heard they're really good, but I'm not sure how their testing works.
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I would test her through something like Abeka or Alpha Omega (Even School of Tomorrow has good basic math courses.) They will then tell you where she needs to start, including where to fill in the "gaps." You could do it on the weekends, or in the evenings just like if she was being tutored. Summertime is a great time for it.

I'm not a fan of ACE/School of Tomorrow, however their elementary math is pretty good, easy to follow and easy to teach with. (However, just as a disclaimer--I do NOT recommend this curriculum for any other subject except Pre-K/Kindergarten, and I would really discourage it for upper grades.)

The reason ACE/SOT is good for this, is just the simplicity--they are PACEs (workbooks), and each PACE contains a couple of new concepts, plus a review of older math concepts. You test on just those concepts, and when you pass you move to the next PACE number. The way ACE/SOT works, they will tell you what numbers to start, and they will tell you what "gap" PACEs to go back and pick up on the missed concepts.

You might check into Saxon Math; I've heard they're really good, but I'm not sure how their testing works.
I am not a fan of ACE either. I like AOP better. My boys got tired of the ACE math because it is soooooooooo redundant. They give way too many problems of the same thing. Now don't get me wrong, I know you learn by repitition, but they take it a little too far... AOP breaks it up and it's not so redundant. My sister in law just told me that her son was doing ACE math and was hating it because he had several pages of the same type of problems. I would go with a different curriculum! JMHO
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Ok, gang. Everyone keeps telling me to get her tested first, but how do I go about doing that? I am really in the dark with this sort of thing.
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Old 05-25-2008, 11:03 PM
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This is getting frustrating. I went to school of tomorrow and they offer diagnostic tests but they don't say what grade level it tests or anything.
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Ok, gang. Everyone keeps telling me to get her tested first, but how do I go about doing that? I am really in the dark with this sort of thing.
I'd not worry about testing... I think I'm the lonely dissenting voice here too. lol

Talk to her teacher if you need ideas of where to start. I'd hope her teacher would be willing to tell you where she's struggling and what she definitely should know before 4th grade. (the only thing, btw, that my kids are having pushed on them for 4th is multiplication tables).

I'm going to repeat, curriculum is already failing her. You are most likely going to need to take a different approach in order to catch her up and give her some confidence so she can apply what she knows to the curriculum next year.

I can tell you're really unsure of yourself, see if her teacher can give you any direction. I think the hands on might help you more than anything else. They may also have resources you can use at home over the summer that will be in line with what the school used in 3rd and will use in 4th.
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Old 05-25-2008, 11:14 PM
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I'd not worry about testing... I think I'm the lonely dissenting voice here too. lol

Talk to her teacher if you need ideas of where to start. I'd hope her teacher would be willing to tell you where she's struggling and what she definitely should know before 4th grade. (the only thing, btw, that my kids are having pushed on them for 4th is multiplication tables).

I'm going to repeat, curriculum is already failing her. You are most likely going to need to take a different approach in order to catch her up and give her some confidence so she can apply what she knows to the curriculum next year.

I can tell you're really unsure of yourself, see if her teacher can give you any direction. I think the hands on might help you more than anything else. They may also have resources you can use at home over the summer that will be in line with what the school used in 3rd and will use in 4th.
Well, they are already out of school for the summer. Friday was their last day. I don't know that her teacher will be there next week, but I will call and give it a shot.
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