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Old 02-13-2008, 02:28 AM
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Re: Universal Health Care

thanks for some sense pel,

getting tired of Canadians and socialist here telling me whats wrong with my health system. Pres. Bush couldn't do anything with SS reform. Hopefully the hope for nationalized healthcare will sink even faster.
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Old 02-13-2008, 02:52 AM
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Hopefully the hope for nationalized healthcare will sink even faster.
what an ironic thing to say....
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Old 02-13-2008, 02:56 AM
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sorry for the wording .... take from it what you will .... my hope for ss reform is much more dear to my heart, did you see the pew population forecast for 2050? we won't survive at the current rate. even with twice the rate of immigration it won't work without huge tax hikes
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sorry for the wording .... take from it what you will .... my hope for ss reform is much more dear to my heart, did you see the pew population forecast for 2050? we won't survive at the current rate. even with twice the rate of immigration it won't work without huge tax hikes
At this point I can hear REM singing "It's the end of the world as we know it"
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Old 02-13-2008, 05:56 AM
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Why is the head of the Canadian Medical Association is opening "private practice" clinics around Canada.

Why? There is money to be made, and there is a shortage of supply. There is a worldwide shortage of Doctors & nurses even in the USA.

But he's the head of the gov't system.

This single statement is representative of the whole post: "He's the head of the gov't system."
  • The head of the Canadian Medical Association is a woman, Dr. Louise Cloutier.
  • The head of the CMA is not the head of the gov't system.
  • The Minister of Health is the head of the gov't system.
  • The suggestion that the CMA is opposed to publicly funded healthcare is a misrepresentation. Here is a quote from the CMA web site: "Overall, the CMA’s goal is to ensure the survival and robust health of Canada's medicare system — easily the country's most valued social program — in the face of numerous challenges."
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Old 02-13-2008, 05:58 AM
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I go to Canada every year. I've seen the system with my own eyes and it's actually quite good. I was impressed. I have a good friend there who has explained that as with any system there are "horror stories". A good example is that my father-in-law was allowed to sit and die from internal bleeding nearly two weeks after a heart surgery in Kettering Hispital in Kettering Ohio. We can't use either instances, my father-in -law's story or this man's story to classify an entire health care system.

But the facts are in, overall Canada's system is far superior to America's.

Besides, the actual plan that is getting traction among Democrats is more like that found in France (number one in the world) than that found in Canada.
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The government can't handle what they are in charge of now. I don't want them in charge of my health care. I have heard many doctors say that if the government takes over health care, they are finding a new occupation. What kind of health care is that going to give us? We need a solution but the government isn't the solution. imo
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I go to Canada every year. I've seen the system with my own eyes and it's actually quite good. I was impressed. I have a good friend there who has explained that as with any system there are "horror stories". A good example is that my father-in-law was allowed to sit and die from internal bleeding nearly two weeks after a heart surgery in Kettering Hispital in Kettering Ohio. We can't use either instances, my father-in -law's story or this man's story to classify an entire health care system.

But the facts are in, overall Canada's system is far superior to America's.

Besides, the actual plan that is getting traction among Democrats is more like that found in France (number one in the world) than that found in Canada.

And Frances tax rate is???????
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Old 02-13-2008, 02:33 PM
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Re: Universal Health Care

If ignorance is bliss, than judging from some responses on this thread some people must be in Seventh Heaven!

I could care less about peoples opinions & ideas about something, but to outright classify Canada's Heath System as what you think it is without even seeing it is being 'ignorant!"

What you have right now is broken right now. Have I been in it-no.
Have you all complained about it-yes.
Is it a campaign issue-yes.

I ain't telling you to copy us, but why not objectively ask what is working in other countries?
I had another p[oster who asked me (not falla) if I would start a thread about Health care in Canada & I said that they should.
They told me it should be someone that is familiar with our system.

I said but, "They won't listen!"

I was right about more than one thing!
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If we call something a 'right' someone must give it to them. By the government forcing me to give violates the 8th commandment.
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