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02-12-2008, 02:09 PM
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Universal Health Care
Universal Health Care
A short but poignant independent film on government sponsored healthcare systems. Everyone who plans to vote for our new President in 2008 NEEDS to see this.
Regardless of the person for whom they would vote. Please forward this to everyone you can think of as soon as you can.
http://www.freemarketcure.com/brainsurgery.php
Someone sent this in an e-mail this morning. Has anyone seen it?
Any comments?
Falla39
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02-12-2008, 02:20 PM
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Re: Universal Health Care
I am not a fan of governmentally controlled health care. One need only spend some time at the VA to see how that would work out.
But... having said that... People have made equally compelling videos of how well the system works and how quickly they got in and out and their service was free.
All one need do is find someone who has had an experience that tells the story one wants to tell and VOILA... instant compelling documentary.
I could make an equally compelling film for or against our American system of health care.
Like I said... not a governmental health care fan by any stretch of the imagination... but this film should be taken for what it is. It is a film whose makers set out to make things look one way and they found the people who had the set of experiences needed to make their point.
So... Universal Health Care... Bad idea.
This film... propaganda to suit one sides views & opinions. I strive to be man enough to see that even when it props up my particular viewpoint.
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02-12-2008, 02:33 PM
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Re: Universal Health Care
Falla,
More scare stories by the people who control the money in the US.
I have lived with our system of health care for all my life and it hasn't failed me.
Ever wonder if it is so bad, why do the majority of Canadians want to retain it?
We have had 3 American Preachers who live & Pastor up here so they have access to the same services as we Canadians.
Thier surgeries were top notch, improved thier lives, & they thank God they didn't have it in the US.
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02-12-2008, 02:48 PM
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Re: Universal Health Care
I just thought I would toss this out for pro and con comments!
That's the way we learn, isn't it!
Falla39
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02-12-2008, 02:51 PM
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Re: Universal Health Care
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Originally Posted by Falla39
I just thought I would toss this out for pro and con comments!
That's the way we learn, isn't it!
Falla39
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Indeed it is brother.
Thanks for sharing it.
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02-12-2008, 03:00 PM
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Re: Universal Health Care
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Originally Posted by Ron
Falla,
More scare stories by the people who control the money in the US.
I have lived with our system of health care for all my life and it hasn't failed me.
Ever wonder if it is so bad, why do the majority of Canadians want to retain it?
We have had 3 American Preachers who live & Pastor up here so they have access to the same services as we Canadians.
Thier surgeries were top notch, improved thier lives, & they thank God they didn't have it in the US.
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I am pretty sure it is everything You say it, the thing is , that is Canada. Your government is not near as corrupt as ours. I know that might be sad to say but unfortunatly it is the truth. Our government can not handle being in control of that much money. they can't control the tax base they have now.
Do ya'll have government run schools? What about a Social Security system? Do ya'll have government run transportation and road departments? We do. Does all that stuff do about as good as your health care program? Ours don't, matter of fact all three of those departments are inept and in debt and in shambles.
See my point. US run health care, by experience, would be no different.
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02-12-2008, 03:01 PM
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Re: Universal Health Care
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Originally Posted by Falla39
Universal Health Care
A short but poignant independent film on government sponsored healthcare systems. Everyone who plans to vote for our new President in 2008 NEEDS to see this.
Regardless of the person for whom they would vote. Please forward this to everyone you can think of as soon as you can.
http://www.freemarketcure.com/brainsurgery.php
Someone sent this in an e-mail this morning. Has anyone seen it?
Any comments?
Falla39 |
How do you all feel about forcing drivers to have car insurance or they don't drive? On that note...how about forcing people to have health insurance or they don't have a right to live? Stupid I know but hospitals are paying for the uninsured and they are passing the costs on to those with insurance.
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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02-12-2008, 03:02 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Universal Health Care
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
I am not a fan of governmentally controlled health care. One need only spend some time at the VA to see how that would work out.
But... having said that... People have made equally compelling videos of how well the system works and how quickly they got in and out and their service was free.
All one need do is find someone who has had an experience that tells the story one wants to tell and VOILA... instant compelling documentary.
I could make an equally compelling film for or against our American system of health care.
Like I said... not a governmental health care fan by any stretch of the imagination... but this film should be taken for what it is. It is a film whose makers set out to make things look one way and they found the people who had the set of experiences needed to make their point.
So... Universal Health Care... Bad idea.
This film... propaganda to suit one sides views & opinions. I strive to be man enough to see that even when it props up my particular viewpoint.
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but at least they have the VA....they might have nothing instead. It needs to be better that is for sure, but how is it going to improve on it's own?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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02-12-2008, 03:05 PM
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Re: Universal Health Care
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
How do you all feel about forcing drivers to have car insurance or they don't drive? On that note...how about forcing people to have health insurance or they don't have a right to live? Stupid I know but hospitals are paying for the uninsured and they are passing the costs on to those with insurance.
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It is my understanding that there are governmental caps placed on hospital charges. We can bill what we want to but that doesn't mean we'll get paid.
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02-12-2008, 03:06 PM
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Still Figuring It Out.
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Re: Universal Health Care
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
but at least they have the VA....they might have nothing instead. It needs to be better that is for sure, but how is it going to improve on it's own?
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Yep... you are absolutely right.
There is a definite need for a fix. I'm not sure what the right answer is either and, as you have said, thankfully they at least have the VA.
I think that a lot of the problem is... well first it is because of the greed of the large corporations which decide whether we get a treatment or not... and then beyond that our connection with the price of a treatment has been completely done away with.
I could continue but I don't feel that I should since I know so many more problems than I do answers. I don't feel that one should gripe too much unless then have answer and I am definitely short in that area.
But... I do agree with your post.
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