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12-26-2007, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
Can I ask a question, ?ok I think I will.
Could a person who have never held UPCI license be put in the under question catergory ?
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I don't see how...unless you caused some trouble for somebody. However, with the spirit YOU carry, I DOUBT you have ever caused anyone trouble. I mean that with utmost sincerity. You are welcome here.
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12-26-2007, 11:27 PM
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She makes me look good!
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Originally Posted by SoCaliUPC
I like Jonathan Suber and wish him nothing but an impacting ministry. I also do not have a problem with other ministers preaching in other pulpits. Saying that, with the passage of Resolution 3....there should not be a question about him preaching IF the AL District Board has okayed him to preach in their district.
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Because the LA district did not put him under question there is nothing the Ala District can do if a Ala UPC church wants to preach him.
There is nothing in the manual to stop them from using him...
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Pelathais, I sure hope you don't get banned for telling the truth.
I have seen so many lies posted. The best one is the one Triumphant 1 did his best to combat. You know, the hair cutting party thing?
Prominent members of this board chose to believe the lie and even continue to spread it, even though T1 had totally proved it was false.
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12-26-2007, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by SoCaliUPC
Not until Tampa.....Resolution 3.
Basically...(and if different, please say so)...any minister who has left UPC (good standing or not) must have permission from the District Board to preach in a UPC church in their district.
It was a ridiculous resolution to begin with. I would like to know whose bright idea this was.
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I believe you read that resolution wrong...all it did was define what in "under question" and what is "unbecoming conduct"...if a man is not placed in either/or/ or both of these statuses he is free to preach in any UPC church with no problems...
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I DIDN'T HAVE A HAIR CUTTING PARTY!
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Pelathais, I sure hope you don't get banned for telling the truth.
I have seen so many lies posted. The best one is the one Triumphant 1 did his best to combat. You know, the hair cutting party thing?
Prominent members of this board chose to believe the lie and even continue to spread it, even though T1 had totally proved it was false.
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12-26-2007, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by retsambeW
I will have to go back and read the resolution, or better yet, my new manual is nearby. As I recall, as long as the minister is not put under question by the district in which he left, he is able to preach anywhere in the UPC. If he is put under question, preaching him would be a problem.
As someone who values his "independence", I would find it insulting to have a board tell me I could not preach someone if he was not under question. If he was officially under question, as one who has agreed to abide by our bylaws, I would not preach him.
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You are 100% correct...
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I DIDN'T HAVE A HAIR CUTTING PARTY!
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Pelathais, I sure hope you don't get banned for telling the truth.
I have seen so many lies posted. The best one is the one Triumphant 1 did his best to combat. You know, the hair cutting party thing?
Prominent members of this board chose to believe the lie and even continue to spread it, even though T1 had totally proved it was false.
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12-26-2007, 11:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
Can I ask a question, ?ok I think I will.
Could a person who have never held UPCI license be put in the under question catergory ?
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No...
These rules are "in house" rules...
But a district can give a UPC preacher grief if he preaches for a non-upc (never been UPC) church because the rule is that if you are licensed...and you go into a town to preach in a non-upc church where there is a UPC church...you need to get the local upc pastor's approval...if he refuses, you can appeal to the district...if they side with the upc pastor...you can't go...
If you go anyway...they can whack you...
Here again the issue is not a UPC pastor choosing to preach a non-upc preacher in his pulpit...if the man has not lost his license "under question or unbecoming behavior"...you are free to preach him...
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I DIDN'T HAVE A HAIR CUTTING PARTY!
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Pelathais, I sure hope you don't get banned for telling the truth.
I have seen so many lies posted. The best one is the one Triumphant 1 did his best to combat. You know, the hair cutting party thing?
Prominent members of this board chose to believe the lie and even continue to spread it, even though T1 had totally proved it was false.
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12-27-2007, 11:56 AM
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Resident PeaceMaker
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Personally I like Bro.Suber's style of evangelistic preaching,you know it's the total opposite of me and my slow self.
I like these blowing and going kind of driving preachers.
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
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12-27-2007, 12:47 PM
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I can tell you first hand that while a pastor who is not a member of the UPCI cannot be officially put "under question," if a UPCI pastor in your area doesn't like you or know you, they can decline a UPCI preacher from preaching for you, and you, (the non-UPCI pastor) have no recourse. This is just as bad if not worse than being "under question" IMO.
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12-27-2007, 01:13 PM
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why all the interest in this guy??
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12-27-2007, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by augustianian
why all the interest in this guy??
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He was a young UPC preacher who was on the "big-name-preacher" circuit for the last few years, and he recently defected. Just curiosity for the most part, I think. People with inquiring minds.... read AFF.
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12-27-2007, 10:09 PM
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I didn't realize when I first started this thread that Bro.Suber would be preaching a watchnight service for the Saraland church on the 31, now I might be able to make that service and I just might do it,we don't do watch night at my church so maybe I can talk my wife into going to the watch night service as it isn't to far away from where I live.
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
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