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[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Trouvere

Aquila I like what you said a great deal thanks.


Berk you are wrong.Not only is it a spirit but it speaks.I am battling it in my office assistant right now.I hear it speak.Sorry this time you are off.This spirit speaks to children especially if it can.It makes them to think something
is wrong with them.I love this lady she is awesome but lives this life openly.I don't support her lifestyle or love her sin but the day she is delivered and speaks with new tongues and has power to overcome from the indwelling presence of the Holy Ghost is going to be a day of rejoicing for me.You have to love the sinner but hate the sin.


I have a question for some of you.Do you ever ask any one taken by this sin over for dinner or out to eat? Do you try and win them as a friend or are you too afraid of being taken in by this spirit? Maybe thats the problem.Rejection is a spirit that is greatly felt by people bound by a homosexual spirit.They cling to each other as the sea(think Dantes portrait of hell) of life envelopes them.I believe Jesus wants them to wash up on the beach and climb to the lighthouse.Jesus is our hope.

I know more about this stuff than you think.

["GL"]

Berk,

I've worked with many struggling with the sinful behavior of homosexuality. Almost all have described it as a spirit. My spirit has felt the intense spiritual warfare in their spirit as I have prayed with them.

Sure, to some this sin is merely a choice. But to many, it is an absolutely struggle against the spirit of homosexuality.

[Trouvere]

Originally Posted by Berkeley

I know more about this stuff than you think.

as do I and having cast it out I can assure you on this one that I am not wrong.

[berkeley]

I'll try to clarify my position. I do not believe it is a spirit, primarily. God turns men over to their own lusts. I do believe that after that, there can be spiritual influences that keep men in bondage to homosexuality.


(men, mankind)

[Aquila]

Here's an interesting question. Where does the Bible state that there is "a spirit" of this or that? I certainly believe there is a seducing spirit connected to the sin, as with many sins, but I don't believe in a spirit of the sin. There isn't any such thing as a "spirit of smoking".

And it's far more than a spirit in my opinion. Because many have obeyed the gospel and received the baptism of the Holy Ghost and strugged with this. Even preachers have struggled with this.

I'm more inclined to believe that it may be an infirmity of the flesh and that perhaps a seducing spirit seeks to convince individuals to give into it.

[Sister Alvear]

let's all just stop now and pray for those who are in the grip of sin and evil.

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Here's an interesting question. Where does the Bible state that there is "a spirit" of this or that? I certainly believe there is a seducing spirit connected to the sin, as with many sins, but I don't believe in a spirit of the sin.

Agreed

[Trouvere]

Let me see.Some of the spirits the bible describes
1.divination
2.familiar spirit
3.jealousy
4.lying spirit
5.perverse spirit
6.haughtiness(pride)
7.heaviness
8.whoredoms
9.infirmity
10.deaf and dumb spirit.
11.spirit of bondage
12.fear
13.seducing spirit.
14.spirit of anti-christ
15.spirit of error
16.spirit of death.

[Trouvere]

Originally Posted by Berkeley

Agreed

and what bible basis do you have for this agreement?

[Trouvere]

Brother Barnes wrote a book on spiritual warfare that is excellent.