Chris Reed

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Originally Posted by Esaias

I don't believe these guys were anymore genuinely gifted than Benny Hinn or Ellen White, to be honest.

I believe Branham definitely was. But it would not surprise me if the other were because I know that their error of faith and understanding does not limit God from using them in the genuine gifts

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Another note:

Those who knew Jesus was Lord used His name and did the wonders.

But Jesus never knew them.

But they knew Him!

Paul made an interesting note about this in the same chapter about the gifts.

1 Cor 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

You cannot know Jesus is Lord but by the Spirit.

This reminds me of Peter knowing who Jesus is, and so much so that Jesus declared the Father revealed it to him in Matt 16. He genuinely had an experience with God to know who Jesus is. However, like Matt 7 where Jesus said he did not know the Lord-Lord criers and that they were not hearing HIS WORD and obeying it, when Jesus spoke to Peter about the cross, Peter resisted. And that's when Jesus called him satan.

What are workers of iniquity whom Jesus does not know? Those who do not carry their crosses.

So, the reason why you can say LORD LORD and know who Jesus is, like Peter, and yet perform wonder in his name that you know is the name of the LORD and Him not know YOU and be lost, is because we must go further than knowing HIS IDENTITY and LORDSHIP and listen TO HIS WORDS (from the SON) about the cross, and OBEY IT!!

This means you can hear from the FATHER about the Son's Identity, but not hear the second revelation from the SON about the cross.

Jesus said to Peter "AND I SAY ALSO UNTO THEE." And proceeded to speak of the cross.

So, Jesus said HEAR MY WORDS and obey them...

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Esaias

I don't believe these guys were anymore genuinely gifted than Benny Hinn or Ellen White, to be honest.

Two of my Aunts having cancer went to an A.A. Allen meeting in 1965. They were both healed. One lived until 1990. The other till at least 2000.

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Two of my Aunts having cancer went to an A.A. Allen meeting in 1965. They were both healed. One lived until 1990. The other till at least 2000.

You heard of Sister Charlotte the Ex-nun? Her sister, Babe, was healed of cancer, I believe, in a William Branham meeting as well.

[TakingDominion]

He has a beard... Can't possibly be a prophet

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Originally Posted by TakingDominion

He has a beard... Can't possibly be a prophet

Well, I do, and I'm a prophet!


lol

[diakonos]

he stated that the difference between a psychic and a prophet is that a psychic sees the future, but a prophet creates the future..


WHAAT!??

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Originally Posted by diakonos

he stated that the difference between a psychic and a prophet is that a psychic sees the future, but a prophet creates the future..


WHAAT!??

Prophets can pronounce things to take place. Elijah calling fire down from heaven to the false prophets, for example. Surely you heard of that.
Elijah commanded the sky to not rain for 3.5 years!

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by mfblume

I believe Branham definitely was. But it would not surprise me if the other were because I know that their error of faith and understanding does not limit God from using them in the genuine gifts

It's not so much an "error of their faith" as much as it is they were, as far as I can tell, low rent religious used car salesmen. To put it mildly.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Two of my Aunts having cancer went to an A.A. Allen meeting in 1965. They were both healed. One lived until 1990. The other till at least 2000.

Somebody hearing that Jesus heals and they get healed is different than a person having the gift of healing.

Just saying.