Just Trying to Be a Good Father

[Nahum]

This is all so amusing.

We have all sorts of theological ingredients present.

Justification, tolerance, disobedience, insurrection, love, and judgement.

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Ok for the sake of discussion:

A christian(CHRIST like) man must show he's still a man by not backing down from a fight?
So if Christian back down verses fighting he wouldn't be a man?

and if he did fight and happen to crack someones head, he can just walk away saying I was just being a Christian and a man??

I consider my husband to be a Christian (Christ like) man. A couple of summers ago, we were walking out of a popular bookstore and saw an older man restraining a young goth punk and asking for somebody to help him. It turned out that the young dude had stuffed a bunch of magazines into his backpack and was attempting to leave without paying for them. When questioned at the door by an employee, he ran out into the parking lot. The employee hollered for help, and this older gentleman chased and brought back the thief. The thief then took his cell phone and smashed it, antenna first, into the older man's scalp, so the older man was bleeding profusely while trying to hold onto the squirming miscreant. My husband assessed the situation, walked over to where the struggle was happening, looked and the thief and said, "Move again and I'll knock you out!" I cringed internally, but that weaselly little punk took a good look at my husband's rather muscular arms (from the elbow down, of course, as he is an 'ultracon'), took note of the determined stance my husband took just in reach, and said, "Okay, man" and stopped squirming. Just then, we heard the sirens as the local police came in response to the store employee's call. I can assure you that my husband didn't lose his Holy Ghost or suffer damage to his walk with God.

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Or was Chisrt not being man when he mumbled not a word?

I'm not saying I've reached great mutarity, but let's not justify us not acting Christ like.

Was Christ being un-Christlike when he made that nice scourge of cords and drove the moneychangers out of His house?

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Just a Shepherd

Do you really think this is all about you? That's a little presumptuous isn't it? It really doesn't matter much to me what you do or what you think of me. I do find it kind of humorous that every time someone disagrees with you, you play the condescending "pray for me, I'm just human" card while at the same time never holding back your opinions of other's decisions that you happen to disagree with.

Every time you are backed in a corner with the good words of Jesus, you come out swinging the sarcastic "I guess your just more righteous than me" bat. Really CS, everything on AFF isn't about you, OK?

Its obvious that you don't see this place as a place for discussion of principles or concepts, with you CS, It always degrades into some personal thing where people more liberal than you are compromisers and those "more spiritual" are holier than though or falsely pious. Do you really think everybody that disagrees with you has some hidden agenda? After all why would anyone see anything different than you right? Please. It might help if just once in while you didn't have such a high opinion of your opinion.

For what its worth please accept my apology, I won't dare question your great wisdom or knowledge on AFF again. I got the message lound and clear when you posted your story about leaving the bar after church the other night. And I sure don't want a tire iron up side my head.

Oh good lord!

[LadyCoonskinner]

33 pages and still going?????

I can't believe this!! This is all soooooooo stupid. 33 pages over teaching 2 little boys how to make a paper hornet, good grief. I think even the Lord is up there shaking His Holy head, and saying...."People, lighten up!"

Shep, TS, and Chancellor....You guys are like the old saying..."Too heavenly minded to be any earthly good." You really need to go take a reality check here. My husband did not sin by teaching my babies how to more effectively make a paper hornet.

There is no bible for that, but neither is there any bible for taking a magazine to the bathroom to pass time away. That is how much relevance that this has to do with being a holy man of God and a good father.

Let it go......... and get you a real life or job.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by SISTER Murphy

I consider my husband to be a Christian (Christ like) man. A couple of summers ago, we were walking out of a popular bookstore and saw an older man restraining a young goth punk and asking for somebody to help him. It turned out that the young dude had stuffed a bunch of magazines into his backpack and was attempting to leave without paying for them. When questioned at the door by an employee, he ran out into the parking lot. The employee hollered for help, and this older gentleman chased and brought back the thief. The thief then took his cell phone and smashed it, antenna first, into the older man's scalp, so the older man was bleeding profusely while trying to hold onto the squirming miscreant. My husband assessed the situation, walked over to where the struggle was happening, looked and the thief and said, "Move again and I'll knock you out!" I cringed internally, but that weaselly little punk took a good look at my husband's rather muscular arms (from the elbow down, of course, as he is an 'ultracon'), took note of the determined stance my husband took just in reach, and said, "Okay, man" and stopped squirming. Just then, we heard the sirens as the local police came in response to the store employee's call. I can assure you that my husband didn't lose his Holy Ghost or suffer damage to his walk with God.

Hmmph! If he were really an UC then his massive forearms would have been covered.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by LadyCoonskinner

33 pages and still going?????

I can't believe this!! This is all soooooooo stupid. 33 pages over teaching 2 little boys how to make a paper hornet, good grief. I think even the Lord is up there shaking His Holy head, and saying...."People, lighten up!"

Shep, TS, and Chancellor....You guys are like the old saying..."Too heavenly minded to be any earthly good." You really need to go take a reality check here. My husband did not sin by teaching my babies how to more effectively make a paper hornet.

There is no bible for that, but neither is there any bible for taking a magazine to the bathroom to pass time away. That is how much relevance that this has to do with being a holy man of God and a good father.

Let it go......... and get you a real life or job.

Sister, the issue isn't over teaching your boys how to make paper hornets. The issue is over not taking them to task over being willing to shoot them during school hours. I have yet to see anyone make an issue over your hubby teaching them how to make better hornets.

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Just a Shepherd

Do you really think this is all about you? That's a little presumptuous isn't it? It really doesn't matter much to me what you do or what you think of me. I do find it kind of humorous that every time someone disagrees with you, you play the condescending "pray for me, I'm just human" card while at the same time never holding back your opinions of other's decisions that you happen to disagree with.

Every time you are backed in a corner with the good words of Jesus, you come out swinging the sarcastic "I guess your just more righteous than me" bat. Really CS, everything on AFF isn't about you, OK?

Its obvious that you don't see this place as a place for discussion of principles or concepts, with you CS, It always degrades into some personal thing where people more liberal than you are compromisers and those "more spiritual" are holier than though or falsely pious. Do you really think everybody that disagrees with you has some hidden agenda? After all why would anyone see anything different than you right? Please. It might help if just once in while you didn't have such a high opinion of your opinion.

For what its worth please accept my apology, I won't dare question your great wisdom or knowledge on AFF again. I got the message lound and clear when you posted your story about leaving the bar after church the other night. And I sure don't want a tire iron up side my head.

The "bar"?! Applebees is a "bar"...?! Brother...

I sincerely appreciate all this talk about being Christlike and true Christians. Forgive me for being a bit carnal at times. Of course, I have often wondered why Jesus' story stops at 12 and starts back up at 30?

Just think about it...

Now Chan and TS, ya'll be real careful or ya'll are gonna get bursitis from polishing each other's halos!

Originally Posted by Barb

LOL!!

Elder, I had a Sunday School teacher in my youth (an elder) who said that there was no excuse for retaliation...none.

Well, the young men took him to task for it, and asked what he would do if someone broke into his house and tried to attack and harm his wife and young son.

I can still hear his answer, "NEVER is there an excuse...even then I would NOT fight back!!"

Yeah, well...many moons later, he and Mrs. S.S. teacher were on a trip and had checked into a motel. She needed something from the car and he was leaning over the balcony watching her.

Suddenly a couple of guys walked up and began to mess with her in a way that spiked hubby's anger...like lightning he came flying down on them and nearly sent them to the hospital.

We can make many claims about "I would never" until we are faced with a situation that we did not anticipate.

All without sin go ahead and cast the stones, but until you are there you don't know.

God love ya, Coonskinner...

So true. So true.

When I was a very young man, some of the young people and I along with our good pastor who was known far and near of his great godliy character and great preaching both in campmeetings and conferences.

The good pastor and all the young people was having a good time witnessing and giving out tracts in front of a barroom. The pastor's car was parked right in front of the bar.

From the bar came drunks, some cursing and some making fun of us. From the bar came a man with a huge snake draped around his neck whose length was a great deal longer than the man. Now, my pastor was a very athletic man who excelled in sports in highschool. But he was deathly afraid of snakes. The man saw that the Pastor was afraid of the snake. He then advanced toward my Pastor. I'll never forget what happened next.

Pastor literally jumped over his car and looked at the man with a pale look of anger. He said, "If you come toward me with that snake, I'll kill YOU and the SNAKE." The man should have listened. By this time, my Pastor had his pistol in his hand which was not seen by the non compliant snake owner. The man advanced toward my Pastor.

Shots rang out and we all ducked for cover. The man dropped the snake and ran. More shots. The pastor continued pumping lead into the head of the giant snake. After the snake was obviously killed, the owner was insane enough to allow a sense of reasoning to escape him. He became biligerant owing to the demise of the snake. Pastor put away his gun but then he had a dissatisfied snake owner to contend with. Again the man should have listened. The man came after the Pastor.

Pastor did not want to do it. He really didn't. He begged the man to let well enough alone. That was not good enough for the stupid man. He grabbed the Pastor. Still the Pastor insisted that the man let well enough alone. Still, there was no sense of reasoning with the man. But, when one of the older young folk tried to intervene on behalf of the Pastor. The friend of the man preceeded to push and shove the church member.

That was a no - no as far as Pastor was concerned. He had both of them now to contend with. To make a long story short. Pastor advanced the cause of God in a forceful but physical manner. I always loved the great man of God. After the Pastor finished whoopin' those two men, (it was a grand sight to behold) my estimation of my great Pastor grew enormously as did his statue to about nine or ten feet.

The police came, got the full story and hauled the two men off to jail. That would be the end of the story except, from then on, I don't think I've ever heard a man of God preach under a greater anointing. The man grew into a giant in the blue eyes of this very young man...so long ago.